Legend Bullets???

tsellati · 02-25-2006, 10:48 AM

I am considering the purchase of a Lee Anniversary Reloading kit along with Lee 9mm Luger dies. I also came across Legend Bullets, 9mm 138 grn, FB and wonder whether these are acceptable bullets and grain weight for use in a 1944 byf P-38 and a DWM Model 1914 Parabellum? What I have been firing is the WInchester 115 grain ammo from Walmart.

Thanks for the advice in advance.

Tim

tsellati · 02-26-2006, 02:09 PM

The Luger for which I am interested in handloading is a DWM Model 1914. Isn't anyone familiar with this company's bullets or with the best grain weight for a Luger? If so, I would be interested in your experiences/opinions.

Thanks

Tim

Rod WMG · 02-26-2006, 09:06 PM

Those bullets are unfamiliar to me. I'm assuming that they are to the other guys too as they're generally a very helpful bunch.

I anticipate they can give you a lot of advice on loading for Lugers in general, however. With factory ammo so cheap I haven't reloaded for this one yet, about the only caliber I own for which I don't.

unspellable · 02-27-2006, 10:19 AM

I cannot speak to the diameter, length, nose profile, etc. of the bullets you mention but I can say that 124 grains would be about the optimum weight for casual shooting loads in a 9 mm Luger. 138 grains is on the heavy side but within the acceptable range. In fact, if you are handloading they might promote a longer OAL which is what the Luger wants for proper functioning.

As for a load, look for one that produces a velocity times bullet weight that is near equal to velocity times bullet weight for the 124 grain bullet. (In other words, drive the 138 grain bullet at about 90% of the velocity you would drive the 124 grain bullet at.) This will put you at a good impulse level for operating the action. In general, having the correct impulse level tends to be more of a problem than pressure when loading for the Luger. (But, as with any gun always keep the pressure within sane levels.)

tsellati · 02-27-2006, 02:54 PM

Thank you both for the advice. I have been using the Walmart 115gr 9mm Luger ammo and both my DWM Luger and my 1944 byf P-38 seem to like it. You certainly cannot beat the price and the only reason I have considered reloading for these pistols is because I have wanted to get into reloading. The only other pistols I have are a 1943 CZ27 that shoots .32 Auto and a 1938 Russian Nagant that has a .32 conversion cylinder. Once I am set up for reloaidng, I likely will purchase the dies of this caliber as well.

Tim

unspellable · 02-27-2006, 05:33 PM

I have a Nagent. I'd be interested in hearing more about your conversion cylinder.

tsellati · 02-27-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by unspellable
I have a Nagent. I'd be interested in hearing more about your conversion cylinder.

The conversion cylinder for the Nagant revolver allows you to swap out the original cylinder for one that can fire .32 AUTO ammunition. The cylinders run about $50 when you can find them. I actually bought my Nagant revolver and the cylinder came with it

. Sometimes you can find one on the auction sites and I think there is a company that makes them as well although I do not know if any are currently available. If I come across one I will keep you in mind and drop you an email.

Tim

Rod WMG · 02-27-2006, 09:25 PM

.32 auto is fun to load for with the single exception of the short case. A potful of melted wheelweights will make a ton of the relatively lightweight .32 bullets. And a pound of Unique (or other) powder will also last a long time if that's all you load.

Good luck.

02-25-2006, 10:48 AM	#1
tsellati User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NY Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Legend Bullets??? I am considering the purchase of a Lee Anniversary Reloading kit along with Lee 9mm Luger dies. I also came across Legend Bullets, 9mm 138 grn, FB and wonder whether these are acceptable bullets and grain weight for use in a 1944 byf P-38 and a DWM Model 1914 Parabellum? What I have been firing is the WInchester 115 grain ammo from Walmart. Thanks for the advice in advance. Tim __________________ "Ideas are far more powerful than guns. We don't allow our enemies to have guns, why should we allow them to have ideas?" - Joseph Stalin

02-26-2006, 02:09 PM	#2
tsellati User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NY Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The Luger for which I am interested in handloading is a DWM Model 1914. Isn't anyone familiar with this company's bullets or with the best grain weight for a Luger? If so, I would be interested in your experiences/opinions. Thanks Tim __________________ "Ideas are far more powerful than guns. We don't allow our enemies to have guns, why should we allow them to have ideas?" - Joseph Stalin

02-27-2006, 10:19 AM	#4
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 10 Posts	bulltets I cannot speak to the diameter, length, nose profile, etc. of the bullets you mention but I can say that 124 grains would be about the optimum weight for casual shooting loads in a 9 mm Luger. 138 grains is on the heavy side but within the acceptable range. In fact, if you are handloading they might promote a longer OAL which is what the Luger wants for proper functioning. As for a load, look for one that produces a velocity times bullet weight that is near equal to velocity times bullet weight for the 124 grain bullet. (In other words, drive the 138 grain bullet at about 90% of the velocity you would drive the 124 grain bullet at.) This will put you at a good impulse level for operating the action. In general, having the correct impulse level tends to be more of a problem than pressure when loading for the Luger. (But, as with any gun always keep the pressure within sane levels.)

02-27-2006, 02:54 PM	#5
tsellati User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NY Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you both for the advice. I have been using the Walmart 115gr 9mm Luger ammo and both my DWM Luger and my 1944 byf P-38 seem to like it. You certainly cannot beat the price and the only reason I have considered reloading for these pistols is because I have wanted to get into reloading. The only other pistols I have are a 1943 CZ27 that shoots .32 Auto and a 1938 Russian Nagant that has a .32 conversion cylinder. Once I am set up for reloaidng, I likely will purchase the dies of this caliber as well. Tim __________________ "Ideas are far more powerful than guns. We don't allow our enemies to have guns, why should we allow them to have ideas?" - Joseph Stalin

02-27-2006, 05:33 PM	#6
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 10 Posts	conversion cylinder I have a Nagent. I'd be interested in hearing more about your conversion cylinder.

02-26-2006, 09:06 PM	#3
Rod WMG User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Edge of Texas Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Those bullets are unfamiliar to me. I'm assuming that they are to the other guys too as they're generally a very helpful bunch. I anticipate they can give you a lot of advice on loading for Lugers in general, however. With factory ammo so cheap I haven't reloaded for this one yet, about the only caliber I own for which I don't.

02-27-2006, 09:25 PM	#8
Rod WMG User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Edge of Texas Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	.32 auto is fun to load for with the single exception of the short case. A potful of melted wheelweights will make a ton of the relatively lightweight .32 bullets. And a pound of Unique (or other) powder will also last a long time if that's all you load. Good luck.