What is this K date Mauser?

glock30 · 11-16-2012, 06:55 PM

Why are the S's on the gun as in the images, and what is with the goth like S on the S/42. It is a bring back from Mauthausen. He is a very good friend and I asked him if I could have the honor to post this.

guns3545 · 11-16-2012, 07:33 PM

First, realize that the K-date was an attempt by the emergent Nazi Government in 1934 to disguise who was building what and when..

However the government wanted to carry the deception one step further. As you know Simson was given a 10 year contract by the Allied Control Commission to build a very restricted line of pistols.

But Nazis seized the firm in 1933 and allocated production to Mauser and later to Krieghoff.

The addition of the S's on small parts on the early K-dates as well as the Gothic S/42 code were attempts to make believe that Simson was still building guns turning attention away from the build-up occurring at Mauser in Oberdorf.

John

DavidJayUden · 11-16-2012, 07:53 PM

Yes, it is only a $1000 gun. (Where do I send my check to?)
dju

glock30 · 11-16-2012, 07:57 PM

Here is the bring back thingy, LOL

wayne8661 · 11-16-2012, 08:56 PM

I am feeling Generous I will pay 1100 for this and I think everyone should be happy. LOL

joeyhol75 · 11-16-2012, 09:02 PM

Well seeing as how I could never get another Grandfather to serve in another 65th Div in another WWII to bring back another Luger,,, 1,000 or 10,000 , I don't think you'll be sending a check anywhere.

S/42 K Date Early Nazi Era Rework Mauser
4" barrel, 9mm caliber. It has a stock lug,and the extractor and safety are marked. This was the first Luger that utilized codes to represent maker and date of manufacture. The front toggle link in marked "S/42" in either Gothic or script; this was code for Mauser. The chamber area is stamped with the letter"K", the code for 1934, the year of manufacture. Approximately 10,500 were manufactured with one- to five-digit serial numbers-some with letter suffixes.
Exc. $6000 V.G. $4000 Good $2200 Fair $1200 Poor $1000

Mine is number 1159 and I would rate slightly better than Very Good.

Daddydogg · 11-16-2012, 09:20 PM

Somebodys Grandfather picked up the right one. Nice.

wayne8661 · 11-16-2012, 09:26 PM

Yeah that pistol is an absolute screamer. Thats one I think any of us would love to have in a collection.

joeyhol75 · 11-16-2012, 10:09 PM

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68740160@N06/

glock30 · 11-19-2012, 12:45 AM

They have one on some YANKEE something, not as good as this, they want 14,000, so..6000 is 1992 prices.

11-16-2012, 06:55 PM	#1
glock30 User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Obama LAND Posts: 206 Thanks: 18 Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts	What is this K date Mauser? Why are the S's on the gun as in the images, and what is with the goth like S on the S/42. It is a bring back from Mauthausen. He is a very good friend and I asked him if I could have the honor to post this. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by glock30; 11-17-2012 at 12:36 PM. Reason: changed words

11-16-2012, 07:57 PM	#4
glock30 User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Obama LAND Posts: 206 Thanks: 18 Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts	Here is the bring back thingy, LOL Attached Thumbnails

11-16-2012, 09:02 PM	#6
joeyhol75 New User Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 3 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Well seeing as how I could never get another Grandfather to serve in another 65th Div in another WWII to bring back another Luger,,, 1,000 or 10,000 , I don't think you'll be sending a check anywhere. S/42 K Date Early Nazi Era Rework Mauser 4" barrel, 9mm caliber. It has a stock lug,and the extractor and safety are marked. This was the first Luger that utilized codes to represent maker and date of manufacture. The front toggle link in marked "S/42" in either Gothic or script; this was code for Mauser. The chamber area is stamped with the letter"K", the code for 1934, the year of manufacture. Approximately 10,500 were manufactured with one- to five-digit serial numbers-some with letter suffixes. Exc. $6000 V.G. $4000 Good $2200 Fair $1200 Poor $1000 Mine is number 1159 and I would rate slightly better than Very Good. Last edited by joeyhol75; 11-18-2012 at 04:35 PM.

11-16-2012, 07:33 PM	#2
guns3545 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 435 Thanks: 649 Thanked 490 Times in 216 Posts	First, realize that the K-date was an attempt by the emergent Nazi Government in 1934 to disguise who was building what and when.. However the government wanted to carry the deception one step further. As you know Simson was given a 10 year contract by the Allied Control Commission to build a very restricted line of pistols. But Nazis seized the firm in 1933 and allocated production to Mauser and later to Krieghoff. The addition of the S's on small parts on the early K-dates as well as the Gothic S/42 code were attempts to make believe that Simson was still building guns turning attention away from the build-up occurring at Mauser in Oberdorf. John

11-16-2012, 07:53 PM	#3
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Yes, it is only a $1000 gun. (Where do I send my check to?) dju

11-16-2012, 08:56 PM	#5
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	I am feeling Generous I will pay 1100 for this and I think everyone should be happy. LOL

11-16-2012, 09:20 PM	#7
Daddydogg User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Washington State Posts: 69 Thanks: 35 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts	Somebodys Grandfather picked up the right one. Nice.

11-16-2012, 09:26 PM	#8
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	Yeah that pistol is an absolute screamer. Thats one I think any of us would love to have in a collection.

11-16-2012, 10:09 PM	#9
joeyhol75 New User Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 3 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	http://www.flickr.com/photos/68740160@N06/

11-19-2012, 12:45 AM	#10
glock30 User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Obama LAND Posts: 206 Thanks: 18 Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts	They have one on some YANKEE something, not as good as this, they want 14,000, so..6000 is 1992 prices.