Grip question

BradW · 09-09-2003, 12:31 AM

Couple questions, Were there different types or coarseness of checkering on wooden grips (lines per inch) and what would be the best book for a beginings collector to identify correct parts (matching gun) Thank you for any help.
Brad

Lugerdoc · 09-09-2003, 09:54 AM

Brad, The DWM grips made before 1914 do have finer checkering than those made later and these later ones also have a bit more width a the bottom of each side to line up with the stock attachment area. The angle of the checkering and thickness of the grips with vary between manufacturer (see Gibson's "Krieghoff Parabellum" book for the only published comparison of grips and many other PO8 parts. TH

Luke · 09-09-2003, 10:42 AM

Anyone -

For those of us who do not collect Krieghoffs and do not own the book, would it be possible to publish this part (Gibson's "Krieghoff Parabellum" book for the only published comparison of grips and many other PO8 parts.) of the book as a section in the Technical Information area of the Luger Forum?

Thanks,
Luke

Dwight Gruber · 09-09-2003, 11:15 AM

Luke,

Gibson's comparisons run to 21 pages of rather fine print and dozens of detailed photograpic comparisons, in a book the size of Stills'.

I don't collect Krieghoffs, and didn't think that it would be applicable to my interests, until I bought it one day on impulse. It proves to be vastly interesting, I'm constantly discovering new things in it, and haven't regretted its purchase for a moment. It is more densely packed with information than any other Luger book.

In case you haven't figured it out, I'm recommending it highly.

--Dwight

John Sabato · 09-09-2003, 11:25 AM

Luke,

I would love to put Gibson's grip comparisons up as web pages here on the Lugerforum but I think 21 pages of material might be too much to ask Mr. Gibson for permission under his copyright... I guess I better put a copy of his book on my wish list.

I wish that some of these older books would be considered by their authors for "reprinting" in electronic form such as the e-books by Gerard Henrotin... I would love to be able to carry my Luger references within my laptop.

Pete Ebbink · 09-09-2003, 12:03 PM

The other great thing about Gibson's book is that it covers in text & photos the typical characterists of some of the other luger manufacturers' pistols and machining characteristics of those pistols...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Luke · 09-09-2003, 12:16 PM

Hello John,

I was unaware that such a large portion of his book was devoted to the subject. Thanks.

Do you know if the book is still in print, and how much it costs?

Luke

Pete Ebbink · 09-09-2003, 12:22 PM

Hello Luke,

Simpson's LTD has them for sale at $ 60.00. Bob & Brad's books usually are new...

See item # 2 on their page :

http://www.simpsonltd.com/books_for_sale.htm

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Frank · 09-09-2003, 03:36 PM

Hi Luke,

You can't go wrong with this book. You know I'm a Mauser Military, but the Gibson Book is filled with data on all Lugers, as well as the Kreighoff's. Besides no one in their right mind would collect only HK's

Luke · 09-09-2003, 03:47 PM

Hi Frank & Pete,

I thought I had found a used copy (new condition?) for $40.00, but it had already been sold.

Simpson has them listed for $60.00, but I am hoping to find a used copy.

Thanks for your advice.

Regards,
Luke

Pete Ebbink · 09-09-2003, 08:14 PM

Luke,

$ 40.00...used...

http://www.idsabooks.com/cgi-bin/idb...ml?id=AHi8LrDP

Search for "Randal Gibson"...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Luke · 09-09-2003, 09:09 PM

Hello Pete,

That is the one I had found, but when I called she advised it had already been sold.

Thanks for your help.

Regards,
Luke

John Sabato · 09-10-2003, 11:08 AM

there was one on ebay yesterday Luke... The bidding was at $75... I would definitely try Simsons... their price is not out of line.

Luke · 09-10-2003, 02:48 PM

Thanks, John.

Guess I'll have to bite the bullet and shell out the full price. Then, I could auction it off for a $15.00 profit!

BradW · 09-10-2003, 10:36 PM

Thank you for the info.
Brad

09-09-2003, 12:31 AM	#1
BradW User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Grip question Couple questions, Were there different types or coarseness of checkering on wooden grips (lines per inch) and what would be the best book for a beginings collector to identify correct parts (matching gun) Thank you for any help. Brad

09-09-2003, 09:54 AM	#2
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Brad, The DWM grips made before 1914 do have finer checkering than those made later and these later ones also have a bit more width a the bottom of each side to line up with the stock attachment area. The angle of the checkering and thickness of the grips with vary between manufacturer (see Gibson's "Krieghoff Parabellum" book for the only published comparison of grips and many other PO8 parts. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

09-09-2003, 10:42 AM	#3
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts	Anyone - For those of us who do not collect Krieghoffs and do not own the book, would it be possible to publish this part (Gibson's "Krieghoff Parabellum" book for the only published comparison of grips and many other PO8 parts.) of the book as a section in the Technical Information area of the Luger Forum? Thanks, Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

09-09-2003, 11:25 AM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Luke, I would love to put Gibson's grip comparisons up as web pages here on the Lugerforum but I think 21 pages of material might be too much to ask Mr. Gibson for permission under his copyright... I guess I better put a copy of his book on my wish list. I wish that some of these older books would be considered by their authors for "reprinting" in electronic form such as the e-books by Gerard Henrotin... I would love to be able to carry my Luger references within my laptop. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-09-2003, 12:16 PM	#7
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts	Hello John, I was unaware that such a large portion of his book was devoted to the subject. Thanks. Do you know if the book is still in print, and how much it costs? Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

09-09-2003, 11:15 AM	#4
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,901 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,316 Times in 430 Posts	Luke, Gibson's comparisons run to 21 pages of rather fine print and dozens of detailed photograpic comparisons, in a book the size of Stills'. I don't collect Krieghoffs, and didn't think that it would be applicable to my interests, until I bought it one day on impulse. It proves to be vastly interesting, I'm constantly discovering new things in it, and haven't regretted its purchase for a moment. It is more densely packed with information than any other Luger book. In case you haven't figured it out, I'm recommending it highly. --Dwight

09-09-2003, 12:03 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	The other great thing about Gibson's book is that it covers in text & photos the typical characterists of some of the other luger manufacturers' pistols and machining characteristics of those pistols... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

09-09-2003, 12:22 PM	#8
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Luke, Simpson's LTD has them for sale at $ 60.00. Bob & Brad's books usually are new... See item # 2 on their page : http://www.simpsonltd.com/books_for_sale.htm Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

09-09-2003, 03:36 PM	#9
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Hi Luke, You can't go wrong with this book. You know I'm a Mauser Military, but the Gibson Book is filled with data on all Lugers, as well as the Kreighoff's. Besides no one in their right mind would collect only HK's

09-09-2003, 03:47 PM	#10
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts	Hi Frank & Pete, I thought I had found a used copy (new condition?) for $40.00, but it had already been sold. Simpson has them listed for $60.00, but I am hoping to find a used copy. Thanks for your advice. Regards, Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

09-09-2003, 08:14 PM	#11
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Luke, $ 40.00...used... http://www.idsabooks.com/cgi-bin/idb...ml?id=AHi8LrDP Search for "Randal Gibson"... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

09-09-2003, 09:09 PM	#12
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts	Hello Pete, That is the one I had found, but when I called she advised it had already been sold. Thanks for your help. Regards, Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

09-10-2003, 11:08 AM	#13
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	there was one on ebay yesterday Luke... The bidding was at $75... I would definitely try Simsons... their price is not out of line. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-10-2003, 02:48 PM	#14
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts	Thanks, John. Guess I'll have to bite the bullet and shell out the full price. Then, I could auction it off for a $15.00 profit! __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

09-10-2003, 10:36 PM	#15
BradW User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you for the info. Brad