'Pinocchio' P38/P1 ???

sheepherder · 05-04-2015, 05:06 PM

I had this posted once before, but I think I deleted it as some members who shall remain nameless made fun of it...

What do you think would look best??? Shoot best???

What caliber - 9mm or 7.65mm???

I have a P1 breech stub left over from my reline projects and am thinking of re-barreling it long...

mrerick · 05-04-2015, 05:30 PM

Rich, go for the 8 inch in 9mm!

Marc

alanint · 05-04-2015, 05:33 PM

Yeah, if you are going to do it, it might as well be eight inches! !

Curss · 05-04-2015, 05:40 PM

6 or 8! If you go 8, add an artillery sight of some sort!

sheepherder · 05-04-2015, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Curss

6 or 8! If you go 8, add an artillery sight of some sort!

I had a PhotoShop rendition of an 8" artillery P38 but I can't find it...

The P38/P1 eight inch artillery looks shorter than it actually is because 2 1/4" of the barrel is actually breech...Only 5 3/4" sticks out past the frame/slide...Where the Luger artillery sticks out ~7"...

I found it!

To make it mimic the artillery Luger, I'd have to add another 1 1/2" to the tapered section...making it actually 9 1/2" long...

rhuff · 05-04-2015, 06:28 PM

The 7 or 8in bbl. should do nicely. I like the 30 Luger round, but 9mm would be o.k. also........I guess!!

sheepherder · 05-04-2015, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rhuff

The 7 or 8in bbl. should do nicely. I like the 30 Luger round, but 9mm would be o.k. also........I guess!!

The relines I've been doing were all 7.65mm so I've pretty much got the hang of it now...

Edward Tinker · 05-04-2015, 07:11 PM

I like the 7 inch - and then put me down for one in 7.65 (or 9mm) as that would be cool

Ed

Ben M. · 05-04-2015, 07:15 PM

gotta do without the original rear sight. 3of them is to many

Ron Wood · 05-04-2015, 08:04 PM

Ditto. Deep six the arty rear sight. Yuck!

kzullick · 05-04-2015, 09:03 PM

I would go with the 7

sheepherder · 05-04-2015, 09:55 PM

Poll added...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

I like the 7 inch - and then put me down for one in 7.65 (or 9mm) as that would be cool

Be wary of what you wish for...'Cool' can be expensive...

Let's see what the poll says...

conehammer · 05-09-2015, 02:35 PM

"Be wary of what you wish for...'Cool' can be expensive... "

However unique is priceless...

Jerry

Arizona Slim · 05-09-2015, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

Ditto. Deep six the arty rear sight. Yuck!

I agree with Ron, the Arty sight takes away from the overall looks, but I like the 8 in. barrel and maybe a Navy rear sight?

Lon

conehammer · 05-09-2015, 02:58 PM

Well heck while youse guys are at it mount a scope on that puppy....

J

ithacaartist · 05-09-2015, 04:56 PM

I'm with Ed and Ron...7" for a really distinctive result, .30 Luger (I know you can deal with the ammo situation!) for sweet shooting, and original rear sight (or maybe a faux-Navy concoction) for a monster sight radius/clean line. Arty sight does look a little goofy...

sheepherder · 05-09-2015, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist

...and original rear sight (or maybe a faux-Navy concoction)...

Problem in that is the P38/P1 rear sight is not solidly mounted to the slide; there's no dovetail etc. The sight is held in by the firing pin & indicator cover and has several firing pin thingies [with springs] under it. There's no practical way [in my opinion] to mount a micrometer sight in that slot. Not enough room behind it either, and the firing pin cover takes up the rest of the top of the slide.

It's either a barrel mount or the original sight. Sure, a faux adjustable sight or base could be fabbed to mount where the rear sight is (and still be held in by the firing pin cover) but it wouldn't be securely mounted. It would be 'loose' to some degree.

DonVoigt · 05-09-2015, 06:46 PM

I vote for 7" , .30, and original rear sight.

Then call it a "Navy 30", JMO!

sheepherder · 05-09-2015, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

I vote for 7" , .30, and original rear sight.

Only poll results will be counted. It's a close contest right now, between 6" and 7".

Ed hasn't voted either.

DonVoigt · 05-10-2015, 09:32 AM

Duh!

Voted this am, 7" is now ahead by a nose!

View Poll Results: What length?
six inch	7	29.17%
seven inch	10	41.67%
eight inch	7	29.17%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

05-04-2015, 05:06 PM	#1
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05-04-2015, 05:30 PM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Rich, go for the 8 inch in 9mm! Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

05-04-2015, 05:40 PM	#4
Curss User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 303 Thanks: 304 Thanked 98 Times in 75 Posts	6 or 8! If you go 8, add an artillery sight of some sort! __________________ -Chris

05-04-2015, 08:04 PM	#10
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,987 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,090 Times in 1,675 Posts	Ditto. Deep six the arty rear sight. Yuck! __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

05-04-2015, 05:33 PM	#3
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Yeah, if you are going to do it, it might as well be eight inches! !

05-04-2015, 06:28 PM	#6
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,270 Thanks: 2,686 Thanked 958 Times in 704 Posts	The 7 or 8in bbl. should do nicely. I like the 30 Luger round, but 9mm would be o.k. also........I guess!!

05-04-2015, 07:11 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	I like the 7 inch - and then put me down for one in 7.65 (or 9mm) as that would be cool Ed

05-04-2015, 07:15 PM	#9
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 475 Thanks: 83 Thanked 117 Times in 79 Posts	gotta do without the original rear sight. 3of them is to many

05-04-2015, 09:03 PM	#11
kzullick Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: East Berwick, Pennsylvania Posts: 227 Thanks: 609 Thanked 100 Times in 81 Posts	I would go with the 7

05-09-2015, 02:35 PM	#13
conehammer User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 114 Thanks: 1 Thanked 55 Times in 21 Posts	"Be wary of what you wish for...'Cool' can be expensive... " However unique is priceless... Jerry

05-09-2015, 02:58 PM	#15
conehammer User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 114 Thanks: 1 Thanked 55 Times in 21 Posts	Well heck while youse guys are at it mount a scope on that puppy.... J

05-09-2015, 04:56 PM	#16
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,283 Thanks: 7,011 Thanked 2,478 Times in 1,320 Posts	I'm with Ed and Ron...7" for a really distinctive result, .30 Luger (I know you can deal with the ammo situation!) for sweet shooting, and original rear sight (or maybe a faux-Navy concoction) for a monster sight radius/clean line. Arty sight does look a little goofy... __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

05-09-2015, 06:46 PM	#18
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	I vote for 7" , .30, and original rear sight. Then call it a "Navy 30", JMO!

05-10-2015, 09:32 AM	#20
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	Duh! Voted this am, 7" is now ahead by a nose!