WWI P08 Lanyard

Roadkill · 08-30-2005, 11:05 PM

Ill take a little time with this, someone might find some interest.

"Sehr seltener, abgenommener Lederpistolenfangriemen mit Messinghaken zum Einhaken in die Waffe, oben mit Schlaufe zum Ã??berschlaufen auf die Schulterklappe. Dieser Riemen befand sich zusammengerollt in einer 08-Pistolentasche aus dem 1.WK, Photo des Offiziers aus dem 1.WK anbei und wird mitgeliefert. Der Soldat diente in beiden Weltkriegen. Leder altersgemÃ?Â¤ss leicht brÃ?Â¼chig. GesamtlÃ?Â¤nge des Riemens 61 cm so wie auf dem Photo abgebildet mit Schlaufe. An Bezeichnungen habe ich ein HerstellerkÃ?Â¼rzel gefunden: MK Daneben ist ein Hoheitsadler des 3.Reiches als Abnahmestempel zu erkennen. Weitere Stempel habe ich nicht gefunden. Ich habe bisher in der Literatur noch keine Abbildung eines solchen Fangriemens gefunden, da er sehr selten nur ausgegeben wurde. Es dÃ?Â¼rfte sich damit um eine echte RaritÃ?Â¤t handeln und eine Bereicherung jeder 08-Sammlung sein.

Not often discovered leather pistol lanyard with pewter hook for attachment to gun, the top with a loop to slide over the shoulder board. This lanyard was found rolled up in an 08 pistol holster from WWI. A photp of the oficer was with it and is offered also. The soldier served in both world wars. The leather is slightly cracking due to age. The total lenght is 61cm as shown on the photo. A producers mark was allso located: MK Next to it is an eagle stamp from the 3rd reich. Other marks were not found. In literature available I have not yet found any description of this type of lanyard. It must not have been widely used. It should be considered as a genuine rarity and an asset for any P08 collection.

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=544512

rk

lugerholsterrepair · 08-30-2005, 11:42 PM

RK, Interesting...I question if this hook could be forced thru the lanyard loop on the back of a Luger. It is quite flat and close. This hook is fat and round, I don't think it would hook up. If it did, it would mar the pistol something fierce. Metal grinding on itself. The regular issue WW1 lanyard had a slim leather tab that slipped onto the pistol. Smooth and neat. This is clumsy and I cannot imagine having a Luger dangling from my shoulder boards. Just dosen't make sense to me . I guess it could be a strap for something...Thanks for bringing it to my attention,I am always interested in Luger Lanyards. Jerry Burney

Lugerdoc · 08-31-2005, 09:26 AM

Jerry, I agree with most of your comment above, except I would bet that the non-gun end of this lanyard went on the gun belt (thru the loop). TH

George Anderson · 08-31-2005, 10:54 AM

Gents, the "lanyard" looks kind'a short at 61cm/24in. If it is in fact as short as it appears, its use would result in a rather serious restriction of movement. If attached to the shoulder board it might be a stretch to pocket the pistol and if attached to the belt it would be difficult to fire from a prone position. My lanyards run from 37-40 inches.

Roadkill · 08-31-2005, 11:41 AM

I concur with all, maybe my attempt at translation is inadequate. If someone who is a better German translator than I ( most anyone ) can assist I would appreciate it. Might be a simple mistake on my part.

rk

George Anderson · 08-31-2005, 11:48 AM

Looks great to me RK 'cept I think Messinghaken would be brass catch rather than pewter (Zinn).

Roadkill · 08-31-2005, 01:52 PM

Thanks, good correction. I really need to start using a dictionary when I do this. I knew it was a metal, just not exactly sure which.

rk

08-30-2005, 11:05 PM	#1
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	WWI P08 Lanyard Ill take a little time with this, someone might find some interest. "Sehr seltener, abgenommener Lederpistolenfangriemen mit Messinghaken zum Einhaken in die Waffe, oben mit Schlaufe zum Ã??berschlaufen auf die Schulterklappe. Dieser Riemen befand sich zusammengerollt in einer 08-Pistolentasche aus dem 1.WK, Photo des Offiziers aus dem 1.WK anbei und wird mitgeliefert. Der Soldat diente in beiden Weltkriegen. Leder altersgemÃ?Â¤ss leicht brÃ?Â¼chig. GesamtlÃ?Â¤nge des Riemens 61 cm so wie auf dem Photo abgebildet mit Schlaufe. An Bezeichnungen habe ich ein HerstellerkÃ?Â¼rzel gefunden: MK Daneben ist ein Hoheitsadler des 3.Reiches als Abnahmestempel zu erkennen. Weitere Stempel habe ich nicht gefunden. Ich habe bisher in der Literatur noch keine Abbildung eines solchen Fangriemens gefunden, da er sehr selten nur ausgegeben wurde. Es dÃ?Â¼rfte sich damit um eine echte RaritÃ?Â¤t handeln und eine Bereicherung jeder 08-Sammlung sein. Not often discovered leather pistol lanyard with pewter hook for attachment to gun, the top with a loop to slide over the shoulder board. This lanyard was found rolled up in an 08 pistol holster from WWI. A photp of the oficer was with it and is offered also. The soldier served in both world wars. The leather is slightly cracking due to age. The total lenght is 61cm as shown on the photo. A producers mark was allso located: MK Next to it is an eagle stamp from the 3rd reich. Other marks were not found. In literature available I have not yet found any description of this type of lanyard. It must not have been widely used. It should be considered as a genuine rarity and an asset for any P08 collection. http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=544512 rk

08-30-2005, 11:42 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,852 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	RK, Interesting...I question if this hook could be forced thru the lanyard loop on the back of a Luger. It is quite flat and close. This hook is fat and round, I don't think it would hook up. If it did, it would mar the pistol something fierce. Metal grinding on itself. The regular issue WW1 lanyard had a slim leather tab that slipped onto the pistol. Smooth and neat. This is clumsy and I cannot imagine having a Luger dangling from my shoulder boards. Just dosen't make sense to me . I guess it could be a strap for something...Thanks for bringing it to my attention,I am always interested in Luger Lanyards. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-31-2005, 09:26 AM	#3
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Jerry, I agree with most of your comment above, except I would bet that the non-gun end of this lanyard went on the gun belt (thru the loop). TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

08-31-2005, 10:54 AM	#4
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,772 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Gents, the "lanyard" looks kind'a short at 61cm/24in. If it is in fact as short as it appears, its use would result in a rather serious restriction of movement. If attached to the shoulder board it might be a stretch to pocket the pistol and if attached to the belt it would be difficult to fire from a prone position. My lanyards run from 37-40 inches.

08-31-2005, 11:41 AM	#5
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	I concur with all, maybe my attempt at translation is inadequate. If someone who is a better German translator than I ( most anyone ) can assist I would appreciate it. Might be a simple mistake on my part. rk

08-31-2005, 11:48 AM	#6
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,772 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Looks great to me RK 'cept I think Messinghaken would be brass catch rather than pewter (Zinn).

08-31-2005, 01:52 PM	#7
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	Thanks, good correction. I really need to start using a dictionary when I do this. I knew it was a metal, just not exactly sure which. rk