"Broom Handle"

Ballistic · 10-31-2003, 10:12 AM

Mauser model 1896, 7.63mm sn31457, small hammer ring, Bolo Model, 4" engraved bbl., red 9 on grips, nmbrs match, 95-98%. Original not re-blued. Being offered to me for $2,500.00. What do you guys think without seeing or touching it?

Vlim · 10-31-2003, 10:27 AM

Hmm,

If it's a red-9 gripped thingie and it's chambered for 7.63, doesn't that mean that either the grips or the barrel are alien to the gun?

Navy · 10-31-2003, 10:42 AM

Engraved bbl with Red 9 grips??

Sounds like a Frankenmauser to me.

Tom A

Roadkill · 10-31-2003, 10:51 AM

$400.00. Max.

rk

Ballistic · 10-31-2003, 02:05 PM

I thought that may me the case. Thanks for the input. But it is a beautiful Pre-WWI gun.

John Sabato · 10-31-2003, 03:58 PM

Hey TAC,

I am in a position to supply all the Parrot poop you may require... so don't be concerned about measurements or amounts... Our Eclectus Parrot named Pietro produces exponentially more than he takes in in food. I don't have any idea how he does it.

Sieger · 10-31-2003, 06:15 PM

Dear Friends:

This is totally off topic, but is there a Broom Handle Forum floating around out there?

Sieger

Hugh · 10-31-2003, 06:49 PM

Sieger,

Try this:
http://www.northwest-denture.com/mauser1896/index.htm

Jack Lawman · 10-31-2003, 09:44 PM

Kyrie Ellis moderates a C96 forum on Yahoo Groups:

Yahoo C96 Forum

You have to register for it, but it's pretty good. Kyrie is very knowledgeable and has helped me out a lot with a red-9 broom and an E suffix P38 I should have by Christmas.

Here's an interesting exchange between Kyrie and another C96 collector:

Kyrie's P-Lax C96 discussion

Thor · 11-03-2003, 03:24 PM

Just got a set of NILL replacement grips for the Broomhandle Mauser. Best I have seen so far!

Michigan Gunner · 12-25-2003, 06:18 PM

Way to much money in as described condition. Someone is try'in to retire on one sale!

I would have to agree with Roadkill.

Lock and Load!

Doubs · 12-25-2003, 07:41 PM

The consensus that the grips are incorrect for a pistol chambered in 7.63mm is correct. I'd have to have a close look at the pistol to determine if the bluing is original. I'd also want to closely examine all parts to make sure nothing is cracked or worn and there are several places where these pistols can crack. The web of the action body just below where the hammer is at full **** is one place and the bolt block (the piece that the firing pin passes through and that secures the bolt in the slide) is another.

If it checks out and the pistol is in the condition you describe, then my only disagreement with the other posters is the value. I'd say the pistol - as described - is more in line with $600 - $700. The pieces of junk I see at gun shows are priced in the $400 range, although I readily admit that I wouldn't pay anywhere near that for them.

I have an all-matching Chinese-issue C-96 Broomhandle with un-numbered holster/stock that has had the barrel and chamber arsenal relined. The finish is easily 95% plus and I'm torn between an arsenal refinish and original finish. The markings and edges are sharp and clean and it doesn't appear to have been buffed. I wouldn't take $750 for the gun alone.

But, there's no way the gun you describe even comes close to $2,500. That's simply fishing for a sucker. I have an idea the owner is aware of the true value and I think I'd avoid doing business with him just on the principle that he's trying to screw someone..... unless you know for a fact that he's simply not aware of the value. Just my opinion.

John -Melb · 12-25-2003, 09:04 PM

Hey John, I laughed reading about your problem with Pietro the Parrot. Sounds very much like a problem a friend of mine has with his dog.

He says it's a really good little Jack Russell, he just wishes the bloody thing would give the Rottweiler it's bowels back! He swears the t#*ds are bigger than the dog!

10-31-2003, 10:12 AM	#1
Ballistic User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	"Broom Handle" Mauser model 1896, 7.63mm sn31457, small hammer ring, Bolo Model, 4" engraved bbl., red 9 on grips, nmbrs match, 95-98%. Original not re-blued. Being offered to me for $2,500.00. What do you guys think without seeing or touching it?

10-31-2003, 03:58 PM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Hey TAC, I am in a position to supply all the Parrot poop you may require... so don't be concerned about measurements or amounts... Our Eclectus Parrot named Pietro produces exponentially more than he takes in in food. I don't have any idea how he does it. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-31-2003, 06:49 PM	#8
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Sieger, Try this: http://www.northwest-denture.com/mauser1896/index.htm __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

10-31-2003, 09:44 PM	#9
Jack Lawman User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Near NYC Posts: 428 Thanks: 30 Thanked 64 Times in 37 Posts	Kyrie Ellis moderates a C96 forum on Yahoo Groups: Yahoo C96 Forum You have to register for it, but it's pretty good. Kyrie is very knowledgeable and has helped me out a lot with a red-9 broom and an E suffix P38 I should have by Christmas. Here's an interesting exchange between Kyrie and another C96 collector: Kyrie's P-Lax C96 discussion __________________ Why do you guys hate black circles so much?

11-03-2003, 03:24 PM	#10
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Just got a set of NILL replacement grips for the Broomhandle Mauser. Best I have seen so far! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

10-31-2003, 10:27 AM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,031 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	Hmm, If it's a red-9 gripped thingie and it's chambered for 7.63, doesn't that mean that either the grips or the barrel are alien to the gun?

10-31-2003, 10:42 AM	#3
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Engraved bbl with Red 9 grips?? Sounds like a Frankenmauser to me. Tom A

10-31-2003, 10:51 AM	#4
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	$400.00. Max. rk

10-31-2003, 02:05 PM	#5
Ballistic User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I thought that may me the case. Thanks for the input. But it is a beautiful Pre-WWI gun.

10-31-2003, 06:15 PM	#7
Sieger User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 2,124 Thanked 400 Times in 249 Posts	Dear Friends: This is totally off topic, but is there a Broom Handle Forum floating around out there? Sieger

12-25-2003, 06:18 PM	#11
Michigan Gunner User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Michigan, on the border Posts: 75 Thanks: 2 Thanked 15 Times in 9 Posts	Way to much money in as described condition. Someone is try'in to retire on one sale! I would have to agree with Roadkill. Lock and Load!

12-25-2003, 07:41 PM	#12
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,670 Thanks: 769 Thanked 1,611 Times in 525 Posts	The consensus that the grips are incorrect for a pistol chambered in 7.63mm is correct. I'd have to have a close look at the pistol to determine if the bluing is original. I'd also want to closely examine all parts to make sure nothing is cracked or worn and there are several places where these pistols can crack. The web of the action body just below where the hammer is at full **** is one place and the bolt block (the piece that the firing pin passes through and that secures the bolt in the slide) is another. If it checks out and the pistol is in the condition you describe, then my only disagreement with the other posters is the value. I'd say the pistol - as described - is more in line with $600 - $700. The pieces of junk I see at gun shows are priced in the $400 range, although I readily admit that I wouldn't pay anywhere near that for them. I have an all-matching Chinese-issue C-96 Broomhandle with un-numbered holster/stock that has had the barrel and chamber arsenal relined. The finish is easily 95% plus and I'm torn between an arsenal refinish and original finish. The markings and edges are sharp and clean and it doesn't appear to have been buffed. I wouldn't take $750 for the gun alone. But, there's no way the gun you describe even comes close to $2,500. That's simply fishing for a sucker. I have an idea the owner is aware of the true value and I think I'd avoid doing business with him just on the principle that he's trying to screw someone..... unless you know for a fact that he's simply not aware of the value. Just my opinion.

12-25-2003, 09:04 PM	#13
John -Melb User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Peoples Republic of Australia! Posts: 145 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey John, I laughed reading about your problem with Pietro the Parrot. Sounds very much like a problem a friend of mine has with his dog. He says it's a really good little Jack Russell, he just wishes the bloody thing would give the Rottweiler it's bowels back! He swears the t#*ds are bigger than the dog!