Report on Blue Wonder Gun Cleaner

Hugh · 01-08-2004, 01:28 AM

<img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" /> First, let me state that I have no vested interest in this product, even tho it is made right here in good ole TEXAS!

Got mine in today and tried it on some mag release buttons, a sideplate, and a shooter frame.

This product is a 'cleaner" and not a "stripper"; it will not leave your gun or parts shiny white. It removes the surface rust but still leaves some discoloration where heavy rusting was.

I applied it as the instructions indicated by putting a little of the gel on the part and then rubbing with 0000 steel wool. It did not remove or affect the rust bluing and the strawing! In fact in a couple of cases it revealed faint strawing that was not evident under light surface rust.

Below are pictures of "before" (on left) and "after" ( on right) of some mag release buttons and a sideplate treated with Blue Wonder.

As you can see, the remaining strawing on one button and the rust bluing on the sideplate was not removed.

Dwight Gruber · 01-08-2004, 02:11 AM

Hugh,

Any chance you can tell us what the before & after Mag light test is like?

--Dwight

Hugh · 01-08-2004, 02:44 PM

Dwight, Results of Maglite test: Before I put batteries in it wouldn't work, after I put batteries in, it worked great! <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" />

After cleaning with the BW, I could still see traces of brown in the bluing in some places on the frame and sideplate under magnification and "Maglighting". <img border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" title="" src="graemlins/bigok.gif" />

Heinz · 01-08-2004, 08:47 PM

Dwight, I don't know about this test. Where would Hugh get parts that were not chromed?

Dwight Gruber · 01-08-2004, 11:08 PM

Heinz,

The Maglight test involves shining a bright light onto a gun's blued surface to illuminate its deep characteristics. Rust bluing (particularly) develops a brownish character (a rusting phenomenon) over time, which is only visible under extremely bright light. A blued surface which does not exhibit this color has been blued relatively recently. (The Simichrome test reveals the same characteristic in a different manner.)

Its called the Maglight test because a small MaglightÃ¢?Â¢ flashlight is convenient to carry around--say, at a gun show--to make this examination. I wondered if Blue Wonder Gun Cleaner altered the rust characteristic.

There has been more than one discussion about both the Maglight and Simichrome tests here on this forum, a search should reveal them.

I don't understand your chrome parts reference??

--Dwight

Edward Tinker · 01-08-2004, 11:50 PM

Simichrome = chrome, humour at its finest,

Dwight, I have wondered about this, lets say I cleaned the heck out of the gun, would the maglight test not work then?

Ed

Ron Wood · 01-09-2004, 12:06 AM

C'mon guys! I think Heinz was referring to Hugh's brilliant 'dillo blaster.

Dwight Gruber · 01-09-2004, 12:18 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Ron Wood:
Hugh's brilliant 'dillo blaster.<hr /></blockquote><img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" /> D'oh!

Heinz · 01-09-2004, 09:21 PM

Ron gets the gold star, but I also think Hugh knew what I meant. Them texans is quicker than what you think.

Seriously, however, Dwight's explanation of the mag light test was first class for anyone who did not know about this important "trick" Maybe John Sabato can post it in the technical information section.

wterrell · 01-09-2004, 09:44 PM

Gentlemen, if you will swear to secrecy, I will admit to you that 40 years ago, in a fit of outdoorsmanship, I ate armadillo.
Baked.
With gravy.

Navy · 01-09-2004, 09:54 PM

Gentlemen,
To follow my friend Wes' candor, I confess to knowing a woman, many, many years ago, who said she owned an armadillo. The way she described it, it was this funny lookin' thing that she put batteries in and she said it was like a boyfriend in a box.

Never did figger that out.
Tom A

Hugh · 01-13-2004, 02:14 AM

<img border="0" alt="[cherrsagai]" title="" src="graemlins/drink.gif" /> Wes,
I unnerstan they taste like pork, but I wouldn't know from first hand experience! <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" />

wterrell · 01-13-2004, 07:53 AM

First hand report: they taste like pork!

Luke · 01-13-2004, 08:50 AM

Back about 20 years ago when I lived in Florida, the authorities caught a so-called "wild man" who was living native in the Everglades. Turned out he was an escaped crew member from a Chinese ship which had docked at one time in South Florida; spoke no English; and led a basic, survival existance.

Seems he was living off armadillos and wild fruit.

Have we strayed from the "Blue Wonder Gun Cleaner" subject . . . or what?

John Sabato · 01-13-2004, 09:54 AM

Let's stay on topic folks... if we stray farther off the road this thread may have to disappear in digital puff of smoke... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

George Anderson · 01-13-2004, 10:21 AM

Tom Armstrong! You are a piece of work! I have, of late, spent a good deal of time in Arkansas and Oklahoma where the Armadildo is as common as 'possums are here. The "boyfriend in a box" line shall get a real workout these next couple of months.

Navy · 01-13-2004, 10:23 AM

Geo,

Enjoy using that 'un with my compliments.

Tom A.

BPNovum · 01-18-2004, 07:52 PM

Hey guys,

I saw some hits from this forum to our website so I thought I would come check it out. If I can answer any technical questions I would be glad to.

Dwight, thanks for the explanation of the maglight test. I would be intersted in hearing the results of that test with a gun blued with our Blue Wonder Gun Blue. It is very difficult to tell if a gun has been reblued with our product as it leaves no odor and matches existing bluing very well. Please let me know if you have any results on this.

Thanks to all for your interest in our products. <img border="0" alt="[byebye]" title="" src="graemlins/wave.gif" />

oops, looks like my avatar is a little large. I will get this fixed! Sorry...

ViggoG · 01-19-2004, 03:08 AM

Bob,

Do not dare Shrink "Tex" - The Wonder-Dillo, Perhaps Hugh, Thor, RK, and a few others should have to consider meetin Him the next time they set forth to "harm them little Beasties".
<img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" />
ViggoG...

...

Roadkill · 01-19-2004, 08:23 PM

I wonder what you'd get if you crossed a Texas armadillo with an Alabama possum? That would be one damn ugly critter. Be able to climb and dig, be loud and talk slow, live under houses that play country music, bows its head when it hears dixie, eat hot peppers and live in a cotton patch, its gait would be a cross between a Texas two step and Tennessee waltz, and would scavenge garbage cans for beer. Still wouldn't be able to cross a two lane though. Something to think about

rk

01-08-2004, 01:28 AM	#1
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Report on Blue Wonder Gun Cleaner <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" /> First, let me state that I have no vested interest in this product, even tho it is made right here in good ole TEXAS! Got mine in today and tried it on some mag release buttons, a sideplate, and a shooter frame. This product is a 'cleaner" and not a "stripper"; it will not leave your gun or parts shiny white. It removes the surface rust but still leaves some discoloration where heavy rusting was. I applied it as the instructions indicated by putting a little of the gel on the part and then rubbing with 0000 steel wool. It did not remove or affect the rust bluing and the strawing! In fact in a couple of cases it revealed faint strawing that was not evident under light surface rust. Below are pictures of "before" (on left) and "after" ( on right) of some mag release buttons and a sideplate treated with Blue Wonder. As you can see, the remaining strawing on one button and the rust bluing on the sideplate was not removed. __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

01-08-2004, 02:44 PM	#3
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Dwight, Results of Maglite test: Before I put batteries in it wouldn't work, after I put batteries in, it worked great! <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> After cleaning with the BW, I could still see traces of brown in the bluing in some places on the frame and sideplate under magnification and "Maglighting". <img border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" title="" src="graemlins/bigok.gif" /> __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

01-08-2004, 11:50 PM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	Simichrome = chrome, humour at its finest, Dwight, I have wondered about this, lets say I cleaned the heck out of the gun, would the maglight test not work then? Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-09-2004, 12:06 AM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	C'mon guys! I think Heinz was referring to Hugh's brilliant 'dillo blaster. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-09-2004, 12:18 AM	#8
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Ron Wood: <strong>Hugh's brilliant 'dillo blaster.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva"><img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" /> D'oh!

01-08-2004, 02:11 AM	#2
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	Hugh, Any chance you can tell us what the before & after Mag light test is like? --Dwight

01-08-2004, 08:47 PM	#4
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 410 Times in 180 Posts	Dwight, I don't know about this test. Where would Hugh get parts that were not chromed?

01-08-2004, 11:08 PM	#5
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	Heinz, The Maglight test involves shining a bright light onto a gun's blued surface to illuminate its deep characteristics. Rust bluing (particularly) develops a brownish character (a rusting phenomenon) over time, which is only visible under extremely bright light. A blued surface which does not exhibit this color has been blued relatively recently. (The Simichrome test reveals the same characteristic in a different manner.) Its called the Maglight test because a small MaglightÃ¢?Â¢ flashlight is convenient to carry around--say, at a gun show--to make this examination. I wondered if Blue Wonder Gun Cleaner altered the rust characteristic. There has been more than one discussion about both the Maglight and Simichrome tests here on this forum, a search should reveal them. I don't understand your chrome parts reference?? --Dwight

01-09-2004, 09:21 PM	#9
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 410 Times in 180 Posts	Ron gets the gold star, but I also think Hugh knew what I meant. Them texans is quicker than what you think. Seriously, however, Dwight's explanation of the mag light test was first class for anyone who did not know about this important "trick" Maybe John Sabato can post it in the technical information section.

01-09-2004, 09:44 PM	#10
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Gentlemen, if you will swear to secrecy, I will admit to you that 40 years ago, in a fit of outdoorsmanship, I ate armadillo. Baked. With gravy. __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

01-09-2004, 09:54 PM	#11
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Gentlemen, To follow my friend Wes' candor, I confess to knowing a woman, many, many years ago, who said she owned an armadillo. The way she described it, it was this funny lookin' thing that she put batteries in and she said it was like a boyfriend in a box. Never did figger that out. Tom A

01-13-2004, 02:14 AM	#12
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	<img border="0" alt="[cherrsagai]" title="" src="graemlins/drink.gif" /> Wes, I unnerstan they taste like pork, but I wouldn't know from first hand experience! <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

01-13-2004, 07:53 AM	#13
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	First hand report: they taste like pork! __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

01-13-2004, 08:50 AM	#14
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts	Back about 20 years ago when I lived in Florida, the authorities caught a so-called "wild man" who was living native in the Everglades. Turned out he was an escaped crew member from a Chinese ship which had docked at one time in South Florida; spoke no English; and led a basic, survival existance. Seems he was living off armadillos and wild fruit. Have we strayed from the "Blue Wonder Gun Cleaner" subject . . . or what? __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

01-13-2004, 09:54 AM	#15
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Let's stay on topic folks... if we stray farther off the road this thread may have to disappear in digital puff of smoke... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

01-13-2004, 10:21 AM	#16
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,769 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Tom Armstrong! You are a piece of work! I have, of late, spent a good deal of time in Arkansas and Oklahoma where the Armadildo is as common as 'possums are here. The "boyfriend in a box" line shall get a real workout these next couple of months.

01-13-2004, 10:23 AM	#17
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Geo, Enjoy using that 'un with my compliments. Tom A.

01-18-2004, 07:52 PM	#18
BPNovum New User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Houston, Texas USA Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey guys, I saw some hits from this forum to our website so I thought I would come check it out. If I can answer any technical questions I would be glad to. Dwight, thanks for the explanation of the maglight test. I would be intersted in hearing the results of that test with a gun blued with our Blue Wonder Gun Blue. It is very difficult to tell if a gun has been reblued with our product as it leaves no odor and matches existing bluing very well. Please let me know if you have any results on this. Thanks to all for your interest in our products. <img border="0" alt="[byebye]" title="" src="graemlins/wave.gif" /> oops, looks like my avatar is a little large. I will get this fixed! Sorry... __________________ Bob Price Blue Wonder Gun Care Products www.BlueWonder.us mailto:bprice@BlueWonder.usbprice@BlueWonder.us</a> 866-GUN-BLUE (486-2583)

01-19-2004, 03:08 AM	#19
ViggoG RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: South Side Virginia Posts: 534 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Bob, Do not dare Shrink "Tex" - The Wonder-Dillo, Perhaps Hugh, Thor, RK, and a few others should have to consider meetin Him the next time they set forth to "harm them little Beasties". <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> ViggoG... ...

01-19-2004, 08:23 PM	#20
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	I wonder what you'd get if you crossed a Texas armadillo with an Alabama possum? That would be one damn ugly critter. Be able to climb and dig, be loud and talk slow, live under houses that play country music, bows its head when it hears dixie, eat hot peppers and live in a cotton patch, its gait would be a cross between a Texas two step and Tennessee waltz, and would scavenge garbage cans for beer. Still wouldn't be able to cross a two lane though. Something to think about rk