Magazine Tubes

Mark1 · 01-20-2019, 02:42 AM

From discussions on the forum I've gleaned that the earlier mag tubes can be identified by the little staking marks near the top. I don't have a reference book that covers this so have I got this right ?
From the top of the photo ;

Early DWM, rectangular punch mark
Later DWM, semi-circular punch
Erfurt, rectangular punch and noticeably higher on the tube

Also, when did the change from rectangular to semi-circular take place at DWM ?
thanks, Mark

Norme · 01-20-2019, 08:57 AM

Hi Mark,
The stake marks on early DWM magazine tubes were trapezoidal while the later ones were demi-lune (half moon) shaped. The change took place, as far as I can determine, in 1910. Erfurt stake marks were a true rectangle (sorry, no photo) throughout production.
Regards, Norm

George Anderson · 01-20-2019, 10:42 AM

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DonVoigt · 01-20-2019, 11:08 AM

I would add that there appear to be some rectangular DWM stake marks, in addition to the Trapezoid. I have a few tubes with DWM bases, that are not the "yellow" Erfurt color, that sure appear to have the rectangles to me.

Norm has posted a clear picture of a slightly trapezoidal shape, along with the semi circle/demi-lune.

I'll sort through some spares and see what I can find for pictures.

Thanks to Mark for starting this thread, and his good pictures. Maybe you could post corresponding photos of the bases of the mags also?

Ron Wood · 01-20-2019, 07:02 PM

This is a good thread with good photos and information. Thanks for starting it Mark, it is long overdue.
Ron

01-20-2019, 02:42 AM	#1
Mark1 User Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 72 Thanks: 332 Thanked 74 Times in 25 Posts	Magazine Tubes From discussions on the forum I've gleaned that the earlier mag tubes can be identified by the little staking marks near the top. I don't have a reference book that covers this so have I got this right ? From the top of the photo ; Early DWM, rectangular punch mark Later DWM, semi-circular punch Erfurt, rectangular punch and noticeably higher on the tube Also, when did the change from rectangular to semi-circular take place at DWM ? thanks, Mark Attached Thumbnails

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Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Mark, The stake marks on early DWM magazine tubes were trapezoidal while the later ones were demi-lune (half moon) shaped. The change took place, as far as I can determine, in 1910. Erfurt stake marks were a true rectangle (sorry, no photo) throughout production. Regards, Norm Attached Thumbnails

01-20-2019, 11:08 AM	#4
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	I would add that there appear to be some rectangular DWM stake marks, in addition to the Trapezoid. I have a few tubes with DWM bases, that are not the "yellow" Erfurt color, that sure appear to have the rectangles to me. Norm has posted a clear picture of a slightly trapezoidal shape, along with the semi circle/demi-lune. I'll sort through some spares and see what I can find for pictures. Thanks to Mark for starting this thread, and his good pictures. Maybe you could post corresponding photos of the bases of the mags also? __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	This is a good thread with good photos and information. Thanks for starting it Mark, it is long overdue. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

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