Silenced P 08

SIGP2101 · 01-25-2012, 11:27 AM

For your viewing pleasure and comments.

alanint · 01-25-2012, 11:30 AM

The wipes in the suppressor would place the technology sometime in the 1960s. Are there any markings on the suppressor?

John Sabato · 01-25-2012, 01:47 PM

A very interesting modifcation of a Luger... Certainly not for long range shooting since the rifled portion of the barrel would only be about 1.5 inches long... looks like quality gunsmithing to me... I am doubtful about the efficiency of the suppressor though... it is probably a rather loud THUMP when fired...

Have you fired this specimen Joe? Is she quiet? I would love to see photos of the suppressor completely disassembled... and maybe a video of the firing sequence... that would be kewl!

SIGP2101 · 01-25-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by John Sabato

Have you fired this specimen Joe? Is she quiet? I would love to see photos of the suppressor completely disassembled... and maybe a video of the firing sequence... that would be kewl!

Unfortunately this one is not mine. I am just a scholar that frequents this site seeking for the knowledge. Parasite nothing else. In my possession I have only one P08 and it is not collectable specimen of any significant value. It is shooter with 6” barrel and it is accurate as hell. (4” is prohibited in Canada). But what I do is searching for pictures of collectable P08s and study them. Sometimes I save pics for further studying because I am particularly interested in stamping fonts and discrepancies that happens to occur only on this side of the puddle.

alanint · 01-25-2012, 09:02 PM

The design screams Mitch WerBell, whose company, Sionics, made the original Suppressors for the MAC machine pistols.

A colorful character, indeed!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_WerBell_III

nukem556 · 01-26-2012, 08:05 AM

Roy Boehm, UDT frogman beginning in WWII and one of the very first Navy SEALS, recounts in his book how he used a supressed Luger to terminate one of Castros' operatives in the Dominican Republic....this was around 60-61, so I wonder what type was on his gun.....maybe an old Maxim?

alanint · 01-26-2012, 08:22 AM

The Maxim baffle design had been eclipsed by WW2, when screening, eyelets and stacked baffles were more in vogue, (look inside a suppresed Sten or Grease Gun sometime). The "third generation" rubber and urethane "shoot through" baffles and muzzle expansion chambers came along in the 1960s and were present in the Sionics and other cans. The can pictured, with the characteristic liberal use of knurling on the outer surfaces is representative of this era. Roy may have very well used something similar.

Remember that Mitch WerBell worked for Dominican Dictator Rafael Trujillo at that time, so who knows?

01-25-2012, 11:27 AM	#1
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John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	A very interesting modifcation of a Luger... Certainly not for long range shooting since the rifled portion of the barrel would only be about 1.5 inches long... looks like quality gunsmithing to me... I am doubtful about the efficiency of the suppressor though... it is probably a rather loud THUMP when fired... Have you fired this specimen Joe? Is she quiet? I would love to see photos of the suppressor completely disassembled... and maybe a video of the firing sequence... that would be kewl! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

01-25-2012, 09:02 PM	#5
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The design screams Mitch WerBell, whose company, Sionics, made the original Suppressors for the MAC machine pistols. A colorful character, indeed!!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_WerBell_III Last edited by alanint; 01-26-2012 at 08:29 AM.

01-25-2012, 11:30 AM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The wipes in the suppressor would place the technology sometime in the 1960s. Are there any markings on the suppressor?

01-26-2012, 08:05 AM	#6
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	Roy Boehm, UDT frogman beginning in WWII and one of the very first Navy SEALS, recounts in his book how he used a supressed Luger to terminate one of Castros' operatives in the Dominican Republic....this was around 60-61, so I wonder what type was on his gun.....maybe an old Maxim?

01-26-2012, 08:22 AM	#7
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The Maxim baffle design had been eclipsed by WW2, when screening, eyelets and stacked baffles were more in vogue, (look inside a suppresed Sten or Grease Gun sometime). The "third generation" rubber and urethane "shoot through" baffles and muzzle expansion chambers came along in the 1960s and were present in the Sionics and other cans. The can pictured, with the characteristic liberal use of knurling on the outer surfaces is representative of this era. Roy may have very well used something similar. Remember that Mitch WerBell worked for Dominican Dictator Rafael Trujillo at that time, so who knows?