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Unread 06-15-2022, 04:38 PM   #1
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Hi to all, Most Luger folks don't ever even think about this little rascal, but it is a pretty important part of a Lugers fire control function. It's only job is to reconnect the disconnector!
Now, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who has pushed on a rusted or corroded plunger pin and spent the next few hours trying to get it back to where it was before you started? The main enemy of the spring is rust. Not only does it cause a dry spring to drag, but it eventually it breaks in two? Should you be able to get it all apart, you're going to need a new spring! Good news is, they are available! Bad news is, they are all in China... I happened to order a few before we were in a pissing match with them, and have them on hand should anyone get to that point or need..
For you, "do it your selfers", the springs dimensions are as follows:
wire dia. 0.2 X OD 2.5 X Length 20.0 or 25.0...Best to all, til....lat'r....GT...
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surely you guys work with the piece inside a clear plastic bag when taking down a weapon.....i find those that come over my suits from the cleaners to work really well.....it will keep the "lost in the carpet" $5 part from shutting down your $1000 weapon....

a buddy recently found a spring from 5+ years ago clear across the workroom, some 20 feet away from his bench.

good hunting on a bad day...!!
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Unread 06-15-2022, 10:15 PM   #3
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Default Springy Thingy Squared!

BTW, the afore mentioned springs are a near identical replacement part. But, that's not to say other springs of a stronger compression won't work as good, sometimes even better that the originals. If you are having a problem with the plunger not pushing past the trigger lever, (the little click you hear when you slowly let the trigger go forward) you may opt for a stronger spring? You can also tell the strength of the spring by the loudness of the click when you let the trigger go forward as in testing the disconnector. It should be light and barely audible. But, it needs to be there... Anyway, now you know as much about it as I do, and that should be sufficient to get you into trouble from here on out!...... you're welcome! best, til....lat'r.....GT...
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a buddy recently found a spring from 5+ years ago clear across the workroom, some 20 feet away from his bench.


Having done this more than a few times I think I am going to try your idea Tom

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Back about 1990 I found a rather sad looking 1917 Artillery Luger and brought it home for $225. The bore was nice and it was all matching. Cosmetically it had a fair amount of surface rust but cleaned up reasonably well. Not a show piece for sure.

It would fire... once. Then nothing until I raised the toggles to the first break point and lowered them again. The disconnector was stuck fully out and wouldn't push in. That prevented the sear from engaging the firing pin until the trigger was released and the toggles broken to **** it again. An overnight soak in Kroil freed it up and it became a reliable and accurate shooter. I foolishly let it get away when a friend just "had to have it".
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I didn't use a plastic bag and now have a Luger coil spring lurking around my work bench / utility room somewhere.?
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I Have Ithacaartist to thank for his suggestion.
I bought an Erma KGP-69 missing an extractor.

Because of the missing extractor bids were very few and far between
I searched out extractor, pin, spring before I bid

Got it and inserted the new extractor.

Ithacaartist's suggestion was a cardboard box with holes cut - hand/vision at one end - firing through the other. Should the extractor decide to extract itself entirely - the parts would be in the box.

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Working in a shower stall or tub with the drain covered works well.
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I didn't use a plastic bag and now have a Luger coil spring lurking around my work bench / utility room somewhere.?
I had a similar issue. I knew it had to be on the floor because the part hit me and bounced off...somewhere...

I went to Harbor Freight [or maybe Ace Hardware?] and bought a strong pair of cabinet magnets...And flipped my shop broom over and screwed them on and 'swept' the entire basement floor..."click-click-click-click-click-"...

I had to clean them off almost every sweep. All kinds of stuff showed up. Steel tool chips, nuts, washers, nails, screws, etc. But I found the part.

They are so strong that I can't pry the plates off the magnet with my hands. I have to use a screwdriver.

"The Magnet Source" is the name on them. About 4 inches long.

Now I can't recall what I originally bought them for...
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I have had good luck just sweeping the floor..Then using a magnet in the pile of rubbish.
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I started using a clear storage bag for a large blanket to disassemble/reassembly certain of my firearms. Lugers haven't been that ornery to launch small parts. The worst pistols are my Ortgies. If you own these guys you know what I'm taking about. One of mine sent a firing pin, spring and rod into space and I never seen them since. I used large magnets and searched seemingly everywhere. No dice! Two years later and those parts are still AWOL. So when I work on the Ortgies, they go into the clear plastic bag,so I don't end up wailing and gnashing my teeth.
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