.45 Luger

12-06-2001, 09:57 AM

Dear All - I haven't yet worked out who best to addrees my queries to, but then again, I may never do it. Apologies then, for generalising. I was just running through a pile of Guns and Ammo magazines [they're not banned here - yet] and I found the article from '98 about the Krausewerke .45 Luger. Whatever happened to this beautiful piece of history remake? Were there really no takers in the land of 10 million millionnaires? $10000 doesn't seem to far out of line to me when you are talking about a hand-made piece of kit like that. Like the man said, there ain't no cupboards in a coffin. Again, I seem to remember yet another guy who made his .45 out of a standard frame by cutting it in half, like slicing bread, and inserting a bit in the middle to make it wider - what hapened to that little effort?

Thought I'd throw those into the ring to show that I'm actually awake and reading absolutely everything on the site over here in UK.

TF

Johnny Peppers · 12-06-2001, 10:08 AM

The Krause Lugers are still available, but the price was $12,500 the last time I heard. They are a handbuilt pistol, but are still just a copy of a very rare pistol.

Thor · 12-06-2001, 10:40 AM

Terry, the other 45 Lugers made by piecing two together were made by John Martz and I have held one, it was $6000, there were also some single shot WYATT Lugers made, I last I remember they were at least $2000. Don't know where the $1000 45 Lugers are? ~Thor~

John Sabato · 12-06-2001, 11:48 AM

Terry, Use this link to see the only photos I have seen on the internet of an example of the Krausewerk .45 Luger

http://www.hoganarms.com

Click on Luger pistols (left side), and the top two photos are left and right profile shots of this magnificent reproduction of the world's rarest Luger pistol-the .45 Caliber.

If you click on the photo themselves they will enlarge so you can see more detail...

regards,

John Sabato

Hogan Arms - Click here!

Thor · 12-06-2001, 12:38 PM

Those PPKs and PPs are striking!!! Sorry for the OT, but a few people on the forum like those too! ~Thor~

12-06-2001, 01:17 PM

Thanks for all the info Guys - purely academic, as you know, but if I ever get to live in North America I'd live in a trailer to own one of those true works of art.

TF

tom · 12-06-2001, 02:48 PM

See the front of the latest of Bob Simpson's catalogues...he is handling the sale of an ORIGINAL 45 cal from an anonymous collection..(I am pretty certain I know the source but don't ask)

Tom

John Sabato · 12-06-2001, 06:48 PM

or is it online?

How do we get one?

Thanks,

John

12-06-2001, 07:25 PM

There is a Wyatt for sale on the internet site.

I didn't see the other .45 that they have, as it must be only in their paper catalog.

Still, any .45 Luger is pretty cool.

OK-9 1940 BANNER CONVERSION BY WYATT, 45 cal, 10" heavy barrel with target sights, loads from the top, exceptional condition, Wyatt made only a few of these in the 50's, s/n 76xx $2750.00

Picture supplied is from the Simpson site.

Ed

http://www.simpsonltd.com/images/OK9.jpg

Steve · 12-06-2001, 09:41 PM

I know some people on the forum do not like the stainless steel Lugers but the last time that I talked to the president of AIMCO he said that he is working on producing a .45cal. It should be out in year 2002 or 2003. He said that he will have a prototype at the SHOT show (whenever that is). The price range estimate that he gave was $900 to $1200. It will be interesting to see one when they do become available!

Thor · 12-06-2001, 10:41 PM

I will buy one if they do it! Assuming the initial reports are comparable to the standard model! Hugh any inklings (rumors you h;ave heard) from AIMCO at the Houston Gun shows? If you have mentioned this before, sorry, I am getting old YANNO! ~Thor~

Hugh · 12-06-2001, 11:50 PM

They used to have a table at several of the Houston gunshows, I have not seen them at one lately.

tom · 12-07-2001, 09:20 AM

It is a hard copy paper catalogue that comes out 8-9 times a year. You get it by subscribing for about $10 or so or free buy buying a hell of a lot of stuff from Bob Simpson, who, for what its worth, is unquestionably the easiest of the BIG dealers to work with. Bob is a true gentleman and is 100% honest. I vouch for him 100%.

Tom

John Sabato · 12-07-2001, 09:20 AM

The Web Site:

www.simpsonltd.com

The Luger Page:

http://www.simpsonltd.com/lugerrm.htm

The .45 Caliber Luger (LARGE):

http://www.simpsonltd.com/images/45Luger.jpg

What a great photo and what magnificent engineering!

ENJOY!

-John

12-06-2001, 09:57 AM	#1
Terry A de C Foley Guest Posts: n/a	.45 Luger Dear All - I haven't yet worked out who best to addrees my queries to, but then again, I may never do it. Apologies then, for generalising. I was just running through a pile of Guns and Ammo magazines [they're not banned here - yet] and I found the article from '98 about the Krausewerke .45 Luger. Whatever happened to this beautiful piece of history remake? Were there really no takers in the land of 10 million millionnaires? $10000 doesn't seem to far out of line to me when you are talking about a hand-made piece of kit like that. Like the man said, there ain't no cupboards in a coffin. Again, I seem to remember yet another guy who made his .45 out of a standard frame by cutting it in half, like slicing bread, and inserting a bit in the middle to make it wider - what hapened to that little effort? Thought I'd throw those into the ring to show that I'm actually awake and reading absolutely everything on the site over here in UK. TF

12-06-2001, 10:08 AM	#2
Johnny Peppers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calion, Arkansas Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: .45 Luger The Krause Lugers are still available, but the price was $12,500 the last time I heard. They are a handbuilt pistol, but are still just a copy of a very rare pistol.

12-06-2001, 10:40 AM	#3
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: .45 Luger Terry, the other 45 Lugers made by piecing two together were made by John Martz and I have held one, it was $6000, there were also some single shot WYATT Lugers made, I last I remember they were at least $2000. Don't know where the $1000 45 Lugers are? ~Thor~

12-06-2001, 11:48 AM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	You can see one of the reproductions at Hogan Arms web page Terry, Use this link to see the only photos I have seen on the internet of an example of the Krausewerk .45 Luger http://www.hoganarms.com Click on Luger pistols (left side), and the top two photos are left and right profile shots of this magnificent reproduction of the world's rarest Luger pistol-the .45 Caliber. If you click on the photo themselves they will enlarge so you can see more detail... regards, John Sabato Hogan Arms - Click here!

12-06-2001, 12:38 PM	#5
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: WOW-Hogan Arms-OT Those PPKs and PPs are striking!!! Sorry for the OT, but a few people on the forum like those too! ~Thor~

12-06-2001, 01:17 PM	#6
Terry A de C Foley Guest Posts: n/a	Re: WOW-Hogan Arms-OT Thanks for all the info Guys - purely academic, as you know, but if I ever get to live in North America I'd live in a trailer to own one of those true works of art. TF

12-06-2001, 02:48 PM	#7
tom User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 269 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re 45 Cal Luger See the front of the latest of Bob Simpson's catalogues...he is handling the sale of an ORIGINAL 45 cal from an anonymous collection..(I am pretty certain I know the source but don't ask) Tom

12-06-2001, 06:48 PM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Tom, is this a paper catalogue? or is it online? How do we get one? Thanks, John

12-06-2001, 07:25 PM	#9
66mustang Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Tom, is this a paper catalogue? There is a Wyatt for sale on the internet site. I didn't see the other .45 that they have, as it must be only in their paper catalog. Still, any .45 Luger is pretty cool. OK-9 1940 BANNER CONVERSION BY WYATT, 45 cal, 10" heavy barrel with target sights, loads from the top, exceptional condition, Wyatt made only a few of these in the 50's, s/n 76xx $2750.00 Picture supplied is from the Simpson site. Ed http://www.simpsonltd.com/images/OK9.jpg

12-06-2001, 09:41 PM	#10
Steve User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 200 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	$1000.00 .45 Luger I know some people on the forum do not like the stainless steel Lugers but the last time that I talked to the president of AIMCO he said that he is working on producing a .45cal. It should be out in year 2002 or 2003. He said that he will have a prototype at the SHOT show (whenever that is). The price range estimate that he gave was $900 to $1200. It will be interesting to see one when they do become available!

12-06-2001, 10:41 PM	#11
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: $1000.00 .45 Luger-Attn Hugh Clark I will buy one if they do it! Assuming the initial reports are comparable to the standard model! Hugh any inklings (rumors you h;ave heard) from AIMCO at the Houston Gun shows? If you have mentioned this before, sorry, I am getting old YANNO! ~Thor~

12-06-2001, 11:50 PM	#12
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Re: $1000.00 .45 Luger-Attn Hugh Clark They used to have a table at several of the Houston gunshows, I have not seen them at one lately.

12-07-2001, 09:20 AM	#13
tom User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 269 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Tom, is this a paper catalogue? It is a hard copy paper catalogue that comes out 8-9 times a year. You get it by subscribing for about $10 or so or free buy buying a hell of a lot of stuff from Bob Simpson, who, for what its worth, is unquestionably the easiest of the BIG dealers to work with. Bob is a true gentleman and is 100% honest. I vouch for him 100%. Tom

12-07-2001, 09:20 AM	#14
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	A photo of the .45 IS on the Simpson Website The Web Site: www.simpsonltd.com The Luger Page: http://www.simpsonltd.com/lugerrm.htm The .45 Caliber Luger (LARGE): http://www.simpsonltd.com/images/45Luger.jpg What a great photo and what magnificent engineering! ENJOY! -John