K date B90 3856 a magazine

lugerholsterrepair · 02-13-2008, 10:53 PM

I have come by a gorgeous K date B90 3856 a magazine, nickle body, aluminum base, blued pin.
Just thought I would check and see if any members had the matching pistol out there!
Jerry Burney

MFC · 02-13-2008, 11:31 PM

Hi Jerry,
I have g date #4288a B90 - S91 proofs. It sure would look better than the SE/63 that's in it now. Please let me know if you want to part with it.
Mike C.

lugerholsterrepair · 02-13-2008, 11:43 PM

Mike, Yes, it will be for sale sooner or later if no one has the matching pistol. I also have a 1934 G date holster and a G date W54 tool I will be offering on the Forum. All three came together.
Jerry Burney

MFC · 02-14-2008, 12:06 AM

Jerry check your PM
Mike

lugerholsterrepair · 02-14-2008, 04:10 PM

My sincere apologies! This mag is actually for a K date not a G according to Costanzo's World of Lugers.
Sorry for the mixup!
Jerry Burney

MFC · 02-14-2008, 11:10 PM

Jerry,
I don't have Costanzo's World of Lugers. Could you please tell me the difference between the two... K date, G date, so I'll know what to look for.
Thanks,
Mike C.

lugerholsterrepair · 02-14-2008, 11:30 PM

Mike, The differences are hard to just tell...it's a little more complicated than that. Hell I'll give it a try.
The box that incloses the B90 is a simple box on the G date. The numerals, 9 & 0 are square bottomed. On later G dates, the S91 this all changes!
On the K date there are little wings flaring off on all 4 corners of the box and the numerals are rounded.
It really is a bit complicated and page 161 of The World of Lugers is a must!
Let me know your snail mail address and I can shoot you a copy unless someone here knows how to post it?

It appears that the tool I have, a W154 is a G date and the 1934 holster I aquired is for a G or a K date pistol.

Jerry Burney

Mauser720 · 02-15-2008, 09:18 AM

Jerry -

I have sent you a private message.

Mauser720 - Ron

Frank · 02-15-2008, 10:51 AM

Hey Jerry, 3658 "a" is a little late for a K-Date!! I would think you were right the first time! It's a G-Date!

lugerholsterrepair · 02-15-2008, 11:07 AM

Frank, Do me a favor and look in Costanzo...He is very specific about these markings there. It is a bit confusing to be sure! That's what I like about aquiring things like this..while I have them I get a good solid lesson and am able to study the subject.
Always a student, Jerry Burney

MFC · 02-16-2008, 02:09 AM

Jerry,
I've seen those proofs in other references, but it wasn't specific as to what it belonged to.
Thanks
Mike C.

Frank · 02-16-2008, 08:24 AM

Hi Jerry, I did take a look at "World of Lugers". My comment was mainly based on the serial number. My highest recorded (confirmed) K Date is 1041a, but I have an unconfirmed K Date of 1513a. Both are lower than your magazine, 3658a. Let me do a little investigation. I have several K Date Magazines and two G Date Lugers with matching magazines in the "a" suffix. I'll try to do some scans and get back.

lugerholsterrepair · 02-16-2008, 10:49 AM

Frank, Thanks! Another collector and yourself have used serial numbers to date this magazine. I have not had time to investigate this avenue. I just used Costanzo and his explanations. It is a fascinating subject but one I am unfamiliar with.
Jerry Burney

02-13-2008, 10:53 PM	#1
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,865 Thanked 3,104 Times in 1,429 Posts	K date B90 3856 a magazine I have come by a gorgeous K date B90 3856 a magazine, nickle body, aluminum base, blued pin. Just thought I would check and see if any members had the matching pistol out there! Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

02-13-2008, 11:31 PM	#2
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Hi Jerry, I have g date #4288a B90 - S91 proofs. It sure would look better than the SE/63 that's in it now. Please let me know if you want to part with it. Mike C. __________________ Mike C.

02-13-2008, 11:43 PM	#3
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,865 Thanked 3,104 Times in 1,429 Posts	Mike, Yes, it will be for sale sooner or later if no one has the matching pistol. I also have a 1934 G date holster and a G date W54 tool I will be offering on the Forum. All three came together. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

02-14-2008, 04:10 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,865 Thanked 3,104 Times in 1,429 Posts	My sincere apologies! This mag is actually for a K date not a G according to Costanzo's World of Lugers. Sorry for the mixup! Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

02-14-2008, 11:10 PM	#6
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Jerry, I don't have Costanzo's World of Lugers. Could you please tell me the difference between the two... K date, G date, so I'll know what to look for. Thanks, Mike C. __________________ Mike C.

02-14-2008, 12:06 AM	#4
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Jerry check your PM Mike __________________ Mike C.

02-14-2008, 11:30 PM	#7
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,865 Thanked 3,104 Times in 1,429 Posts	Mike, The differences are hard to just tell...it's a little more complicated than that. Hell I'll give it a try. The box that incloses the B90 is a simple box on the G date. The numerals, 9 & 0 are square bottomed. On later G dates, the S91 this all changes! On the K date there are little wings flaring off on all 4 corners of the box and the numerals are rounded. It really is a bit complicated and page 161 of The World of Lugers is a must! Let me know your snail mail address and I can shoot you a copy unless someone here knows how to post it? It appears that the tool I have, a W154 is a G date and the 1934 holster I aquired is for a G or a K date pistol. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

02-15-2008, 09:18 AM	#8
Mauser720 User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 535 Thanks: 18 Thanked 49 Times in 33 Posts	Jerry - I have sent you a private message. Mauser720 - Ron __________________ Mauser720 - Ron "Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it."

02-15-2008, 10:51 AM	#9
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Hey Jerry, 3658 "a" is a little late for a K-Date!! I would think you were right the first time! It's a G-Date!

02-15-2008, 11:07 AM	#10
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,865 Thanked 3,104 Times in 1,429 Posts	Frank, Do me a favor and look in Costanzo...He is very specific about these markings there. It is a bit confusing to be sure! That's what I like about aquiring things like this..while I have them I get a good solid lesson and am able to study the subject. Always a student, Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

02-16-2008, 02:09 AM	#11
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Jerry, I've seen those proofs in other references, but it wasn't specific as to what it belonged to. Thanks Mike C. __________________ Mike C.

02-16-2008, 08:24 AM	#12
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Hi Jerry, I did take a look at "World of Lugers". My comment was mainly based on the serial number. My highest recorded (confirmed) K Date is 1041a, but I have an unconfirmed K Date of 1513a. Both are lower than your magazine, 3658a. Let me do a little investigation. I have several K Date Magazines and two G Date Lugers with matching magazines in the "a" suffix. I'll try to do some scans and get back.

02-16-2008, 10:49 AM	#13
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,865 Thanked 3,104 Times in 1,429 Posts	Frank, Thanks! Another collector and yourself have used serial numbers to date this magazine. I have not had time to investigate this avenue. I just used Costanzo and his explanations. It is a fascinating subject but one I am unfamiliar with. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."