Mystery Navy Rig...

Norme · 01-06-2013, 04:14 PM

This interesting, and possibly unique, Navy rig, belongs to Bob Young (Spartacus38). The holster is Type 1 Navy, the stock is a converted Artillery, with inletted Navy disc and C/M marks, and the shoulder straps appear to be of the period. Has anyone seen anything like this before?
Regards, Norm

lugerholsterrepair · 01-06-2013, 07:58 PM

Norm, I wouldn't touch any of this rig with a ten foot pole. It's hinky from start to finish. Bubba has attacked this thing with a vengeance. If I had time I would point out the first half dozen reasons. shoulder straps appear to be of the period..Not of any period I am familiar with.

I cannot see the holster's back or inside enough to determine what's what there. I know that if I find one flag saying mine field I am cautious and a half dozen flags make me back away slowly. Nothing about this is right IMO but if anyone else has a different opinion I would love to hear it.

spartacus38 · 01-06-2013, 09:56 PM

Hi Jerry,
Don Rousseau,Luger collector,researcher and expert who with
Tom Knox and John Pearson helped prepare the Imperial Navy
Section of Jan Stills Imperial Lugers.
Don also helped in Stills Central Powers,Axis Pistols and Third
Riech Lugers.

Don Rousseau personally looked at this Navy Rig 13 years ago
and said it was unique and "right as rain".

Bob

lugerholsterrepair · 01-06-2013, 10:06 PM

Who am I to argue. But "right as rain"?? Compared to what?

klaus 3338 · 01-07-2013, 02:00 AM

only the holster seems to be correct. I do not like all the other things

tenbears · 01-07-2013, 03:04 PM

If possible could we see pictures of the back side of the holster and stock?

lugerholsterrepair · 01-07-2013, 03:36 PM

Bob, I guess Don Rousseau and I have different standards and will have to agree to disagree.

spartacus38 · 01-07-2013, 03:52 PM

The holster is dated 1917,with Crown over M and maker marked Albert Moller.
Bob

spartacus38 · 01-07-2013, 08:52 PM

I have the wrong toe leather strap pictured as pointed out by Jerry Burney.
I sent him a picture of the correct one and asked him to post it.
Bob

spartacus38 · 01-08-2013, 03:24 PM

Hi Jerry,
Did you receive the picture I sent you?Was it OK?
Bob

01-06-2013, 04:14 PM	#1
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	Mystery Navy Rig... This interesting, and possibly unique, Navy rig, belongs to Bob Young (Spartacus38). The holster is Type 1 Navy, the stock is a converted Artillery, with inletted Navy disc and C/M marks, and the shoulder straps appear to be of the period. Has anyone seen anything like this before? Regards, Norm Attached Thumbnails

01-06-2013, 07:58 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Norm, I wouldn't touch any of this rig with a ten foot pole. It's hinky from start to finish. Bubba has attacked this thing with a vengeance. If I had time I would point out the first half dozen reasons. shoulder straps appear to be of the period..Not of any period I am familiar with. I cannot see the holster's back or inside enough to determine what's what there. I know that if I find one flag saying mine field I am cautious and a half dozen flags make me back away slowly. Nothing about this is right IMO but if anyone else has a different opinion I would love to hear it. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-06-2013, 09:56 PM	#3
spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	Navy Rig Hi Jerry, Don Rousseau,Luger collector,researcher and expert who with Tom Knox and John Pearson helped prepare the Imperial Navy Section of Jan Stills Imperial Lugers. Don also helped in Stills Central Powers,Axis Pistols and Third Riech Lugers. Don Rousseau personally looked at this Navy Rig 13 years ago and said it was unique and "right as rain". Bob

01-06-2013, 10:06 PM	#4
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Who am I to argue. But "right as rain"?? Compared to what? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-07-2013, 03:36 PM	#7
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Bob, I guess Don Rousseau and I have different standards and will have to agree to disagree. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-07-2013, 02:00 AM	#5
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 513 Thanks: 0 Thanked 394 Times in 156 Posts	only the holster seems to be correct. I do not like all the other things

01-07-2013, 03:04 PM	#6
tenbears User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 370 Thanks: 3 Thanked 26 Times in 15 Posts	If possible could we see pictures of the back side of the holster and stock?

01-07-2013, 03:52 PM	#8
spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	The holster is dated 1917,with Crown over M and maker marked Albert Moller. Bob

01-07-2013, 08:52 PM	#9
spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	I have the wrong toe leather strap pictured as pointed out by Jerry Burney. I sent him a picture of the correct one and asked him to post it. Bob

01-08-2013, 03:24 PM	#10
spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	Hi Jerry, Did you receive the picture I sent you?Was it OK? Bob