Nill grips group buy. UPDATED - Page 2

Hugh · 01-01-2006, 12:20 AM

Snakeman,

The smooth ones are Walnut!

For those of you that want hand checkered NG grips for standard or grip safety models, or border checkered pattern, I will have them available after this shipment is received.

Snakeman · 01-01-2006, 04:13 AM

I stand corrected.

Ponyman · 01-27-2006, 01:16 PM

Doug -

Please check your PM box.....

Ponyman · 02-04-2006, 11:04 AM

Any update on the status of the Purchase Order?

How many grips are currently on the list?
$70 spread over 20 grips wouldn't be bad!

Doug G. · 02-04-2006, 11:35 AM

I have requested a shipping quote from Nill. The last time I asked I was quoted $70! If it is that much it will make the grips too expensive to make worth while. Should have an answer by monday hopefully.

Green57 · 02-08-2006, 04:48 AM

Doug,

I have just completed a group buy of Nill P9S grips for the PCT and HKpro web sites. Derek who mods the Navy luger forum was the contact for HKpro group.

As I live in Germany (about 150 kilometers from the Nill factory), and through the P9S buy have developed a good working relation ship with Nill, I Would be glad to assist you in any way with your group buy.

I can ship the grips direct to the group using the Army Post Office system. that should save on some postage.

As long as the packages contain less than $400.00 worth of goods Customs is not a problem.

Please contact me if you have any questions. joepik "at" hotmail.com

Green57

Lugerdoc · 02-08-2006, 12:16 PM

Hugh, If NIL now has the early or post was Parabellum model grip safety type grips available, I would like to know more. Thanks, Tom Heller

Hugh · 02-08-2006, 11:31 PM

Tom,

They don't have them. I inlet for grip safety and fit to early frame myself.
Hugh

Ponyman · 02-09-2006, 10:02 AM

$400 would only cover 5 checkered or 6 smooth grip sets. That would result in a large number of packages and would probably increase the postage cost beyond any APO savings. But if the packages were sent to regional groups of buyers - rather than to one central agent (Doug G.) - for re-distribution, it might be worthwhile.

Doug, do you see any geographic "clustters" in the list of buyers?

Green57 · 02-09-2006, 10:32 AM

Ponyman,

I would mail the grips directly to the buyer. The postage is from New York to your house. I used the priorty boxes for the P9S group buy. Cost was 3.85 plus insurance, I insured each P9S grip for $140.00 total cost was $7.05.

I'm not sure how much customs would be on the total order, or how long it would take to clear.

That's why its best to ship to each buyer and have each buyer pay for his own postage and insurance.

Just something to think about.

Green57

Edward Tinker · 02-09-2006, 10:35 AM

I think it is getting too complicated, this is always a problem on an international buy.

And unsure where the $400 comes from, anything over $100 (personal gift) and $200.00 for most items for imported items can have a customs charge....

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/import/in..._purchases.xml

Quote:

Packages whose declared value is under $200 ($100 if being sent as a gift to someone other than the purchaser) will generally be cleared without any additional paperwork prepared by CBP. However, CBP always reserves the right to require a formal entry for any importation and generally exercises this option if there is something unusual about the importation, or if important documents such as an invoice or bill of sale do not accompany the item.

Not to be negatvie, but I think the value of buying in volume is negated by the difficulties... However, if Doug goes forward, I'll pay my part of the customs, being the point of contact, he is responsible for everything until disbursement to everyone...

Ed

Green57 · 02-09-2006, 11:05 AM

Ed,

The info you posted is for using the international postal system. The APO is run by the Army for those that are stationed overseas. The rules are basicly the same (as to what you can mail) as the U.S. Post Office, but their are a few more liberties granted to us than using the international system, one of them be the $400.00 customs limit. I will research it and find out for sure.

I will say this though. Out of the 28 packages that is sent for the P9S group buy the U.S. Post Office did manage to lose two of them. All the others were delivered in about twelve days. I will be filing the claims with the Post Office on the 15th of this month to recover the funds for the lost grips.

Green57

Edward Tinker · 02-09-2006, 11:30 AM

I was in the army for 20 years, overseas for 8, so I understand how the APO and FPO works. I also know that using the APO for non-personal use can get you into hot-water. I was selling on ebay and I had them question me on several occassions, which I thought was BS, but it is something to be aware of that you sure don't want your APO priveledges taken away!

ed

Green57 · 02-09-2006, 11:47 AM

Point noted. Just trying to help. Green57

Edward Tinker · 02-09-2006, 12:44 PM

absolutely, and we apprecaite it. I just don't want you geting your next christmas fruitcake from mom and it costing $55 international post

Ponyman · 02-09-2006, 04:51 PM

If we have enough grips on the list to qualify for the group discount and
Green57 is willing to do the individual packaging, it sounds like a good deal.

I vote for going ahead - with sincere thanks to Joseph!

Doug G. · 02-10-2006, 10:40 AM

Ok, finally got a shipping quote from Nill.

Quote:

Sorry Doug, we had a long week with much turmoil. Not bad turmoil, but busy turmoil!

Packing and shipping $ 108.55 for the amount you quote.

Let me know if I can be of further help

Yours

Alasdair

Karl Nill Massgriffe und Holverarbeitung GmbH

This will be $3.29 per pair. Plus the shipping from me to you guys. Anyone still interested please let me know ASAP.

Minnepiper · 02-10-2006, 01:24 PM

Please put me down for one (1) pair of checkered grips, if you are still taking orders. just lemme know where to send the $$.

thanks!
dan in Mpls, MN

Freischütz · 02-11-2006, 09:49 PM

Hello - I'll stay with my original order. Please let me know the total, to whom to send the check, and where to send it.

Edward Tinker · 02-11-2006, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FreischÃ?Â¼tz
Hello - I'll stay with my original order. Please let me know the total, to whom to send the check, and where to send it.

same with me,

Ed

01-01-2006, 12:20 AM	#21
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Snakeman, The smooth ones are Walnut! For those of you that want hand checkered NG grips for standard or grip safety models, or border checkered pattern, I will have them available after this shipment is received. __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

01-27-2006, 01:16 PM	#23
Ponyman User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Atlantic County, NJ, USA Posts: 138 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Doug - Please check your PM box..... __________________ "The Constitution is intended for use by a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the governance of any other." ~ John Quincy Adams

02-04-2006, 11:04 AM	#24
Ponyman User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Atlantic County, NJ, USA Posts: 138 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Any update on the status of the Purchase Order? How many grips are currently on the list? $70 spread over 20 grips wouldn't be bad! __________________ "The Constitution is intended for use by a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the governance of any other." ~ John Quincy Adams

02-04-2006, 11:35 AM	#25
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	I have requested a shipping quote from Nill. The last time I asked I was quoted $70! If it is that much it will make the grips too expensive to make worth while. Should have an answer by monday hopefully. __________________ Suppose you were an idiot.....and suppose you were a member of Congress.....But I repeat myself" ~~ Mark Twain

02-08-2006, 04:48 AM	#26
Green57 User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Help with grip group buy Doug, I have just completed a group buy of Nill P9S grips for the PCT and HKpro web sites. Derek who mods the Navy luger forum was the contact for HKpro group. As I live in Germany (about 150 kilometers from the Nill factory), and through the P9S buy have developed a good working relation ship with Nill, I Would be glad to assist you in any way with your group buy. I can ship the grips direct to the group using the Army Post Office system. that should save on some postage. As long as the packages contain less than $400.00 worth of goods Customs is not a problem. Please contact me if you have any questions. joepik "at" hotmail.com Green57

01-01-2006, 04:13 AM	#22
Snakeman User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I stand corrected.

02-08-2006, 12:16 PM	#27
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Hugh, If NIL now has the early or post was Parabellum model grip safety type grips available, I would like to know more. Thanks, Tom Heller __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

02-08-2006, 11:31 PM	#28
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Tom, They don't have them. I inlet for grip safety and fit to early frame myself. Hugh __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

02-09-2006, 10:02 AM	#29
Ponyman User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Atlantic County, NJ, USA Posts: 138 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	$400 would only cover 5 checkered or 6 smooth grip sets. That would result in a large number of packages and would probably increase the postage cost beyond any APO savings. But if the packages were sent to regional groups of buyers - rather than to one central agent (Doug G.) - for re-distribution, it might be worthwhile. Doug, do you see any geographic "clustters" in the list of buyers? __________________ "The Constitution is intended for use by a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the governance of any other." ~ John Quincy Adams

02-09-2006, 10:32 AM	#30
Green57 User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Ponyman, I would mail the grips directly to the buyer. The postage is from New York to your house. I used the priorty boxes for the P9S group buy. Cost was 3.85 plus insurance, I insured each P9S grip for $140.00 total cost was $7.05. I'm not sure how much customs would be on the total order, or how long it would take to clear. That's why its best to ship to each buyer and have each buyer pay for his own postage and insurance. Just something to think about. Green57

02-09-2006, 11:05 AM	#32
Green57 User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Ed, The info you posted is for using the international postal system. The APO is run by the Army for those that are stationed overseas. The rules are basicly the same (as to what you can mail) as the U.S. Post Office, but their are a few more liberties granted to us than using the international system, one of them be the $400.00 customs limit. I will research it and find out for sure. I will say this though. Out of the 28 packages that is sent for the P9S group buy the U.S. Post Office did manage to lose two of them. All the others were delivered in about twelve days. I will be filing the claims with the Post Office on the 15th of this month to recover the funds for the lost grips. Green57

02-09-2006, 11:30 AM	#33
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	I was in the army for 20 years, overseas for 8, so I understand how the APO and FPO works. I also know that using the APO for non-personal use can get you into hot-water. I was selling on ebay and I had them question me on several occassions, which I thought was BS, but it is something to be aware of that you sure don't want your APO priveledges taken away! ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-09-2006, 11:47 AM	#34
Green57 User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Point noted. Just trying to help. Green57

02-09-2006, 12:44 PM	#35
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	absolutely, and we apprecaite it. I just don't want you geting your next christmas fruitcake from mom and it costing $55 international post __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-09-2006, 04:51 PM	#36
Ponyman User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Atlantic County, NJ, USA Posts: 138 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	If we have enough grips on the list to qualify for the group discount and Green57 is willing to do the individual packaging, it sounds like a good deal. I vote for going ahead - with sincere thanks to Joseph! __________________ "The Constitution is intended for use by a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the governance of any other." ~ John Quincy Adams

02-10-2006, 01:24 PM	#38
Minnepiper User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brooklyn Park MN Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Please put me down for one (1) pair of checkered grips, if you are still taking orders. just lemme know where to send the $$. thanks! dan in Mpls, MN

02-11-2006, 09:49 PM	#39
Freischütz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 125 Thanks: 9 Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts	Hello - I'll stay with my original order. Please let me know the total, to whom to send the check, and where to send it.