please help me find out what i have got

Cwilson · 01-31-2008, 12:49 AM

hello
I was just given a luger and holster. 1920 on top of barrel, DWM on breechblock. on front of grip it is marked SA.f.1.308. all serial numbers visable match, and i will provide a picture and serial number when possible.
Gun was brought home from Japan at the end of 1946 or so.

Edward Tinker · 01-31-2008, 01:12 AM

Chris, welcome to the forum. A serial number can help us, to include the suffix on the front of the frame. In addition, the proofs and acceptance on the right side of the receiver will tell us if this is a WW1 that was reworked or an original 1920 (date) rather than a 1920 property stamping.

if you could take a clear picture of the front grip strap, as it could be a weimar army marking or a weimar police marking.

Ed

Cwilson · 01-31-2008, 01:53 AM

no suffix on serial number. i will have a picture uploaded tommorow

John Sabato · 01-31-2008, 10:21 AM

My supposition about how the gun got to Japan in 1946... knowing several members of the 1946 Occupation forces in Japan... they were transplanted from the European theater when the war in Europe was over, and most likely brought their war booty with them and then promptly lost them in games of chance... (not cofirmed, but I would be willing to wager on it

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Cwilson · 01-31-2008, 10:54 AM

i would love to know also, it was brought back from japan by my grandfather, and i guess he won it, as he was not in europe. i would ask but he recently passed and left it to me. might try grandma. Pictures are being taken and will be uploaded soon
Thanks all

Navy · 01-31-2008, 01:17 PM

John's supposition is probably correct. I have owned 2 Lugers that came to the US via Japan courtesey of occupation troops.

Tom A

tenbears · 02-02-2008, 11:30 AM

A few years ago I aquirred a German SA dagger from a WWII Vet you won it in a poker game on a troop ship in the Pacific.

Cwilson · 02-02-2008, 11:02 PM

Evening all. i am working on pics of this pistol, but here is what i have so far. Serial number of 536 with a squiggle under it that looks like a "b".
The front strap is marked S. Ar.1.I.306 .

The right side has 3 marks on it like eaglesor snowflakes the 1st is barely there.

Clip # 1 marked on bottom 2468 then an "m" squiggle a plus sign and then an eagle with 63 under it. has an aluminum bottom.

Clip#2 marked XO on side , eagle with 37 under it and p.08 . has a plastic bottom.

Holster is marked 1./ R.R.13.14. . MADE BY tHICKE(?) IN 1918
behind the belt loop it is mark in a box L.Z. ST. J .FBG

Cwilson · 02-03-2008, 01:06 AM

let us know what you think

Cwilson · 02-03-2008, 01:08 AM

once again

Cwilson · 02-03-2008, 01:10 AM

one more

Cwilson · 02-03-2008, 01:12 AM

serial #

01-31-2008, 12:49 AM	#1
Cwilson User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	please help me find out what i have got hello I was just given a luger and holster. 1920 on top of barrel, DWM on breechblock. on front of grip it is marked SA.f.1.308. all serial numbers visable match, and i will provide a picture and serial number when possible. Gun was brought home from Japan at the end of 1946 or so.

01-31-2008, 10:21 AM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	My supposition about how the gun got to Japan in 1946... knowing several members of the 1946 Occupation forces in Japan... they were transplanted from the European theater when the war in Europe was over, and most likely brought their war booty with them and then promptly lost them in games of chance... (not cofirmed, but I would be willing to wager on it ) __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-03-2008, 01:06 AM	#9
Cwilson User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	unit markings let us know what you think Attached Thumbnails

02-03-2008, 01:08 AM	#10
Cwilson User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	IG stamps? once again Attached Thumbnails

02-03-2008, 01:10 AM	#11
Cwilson User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1920 date one more Attached Thumbnails

01-31-2008, 01:12 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,987 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	Chris, welcome to the forum. A serial number can help us, to include the suffix on the front of the frame. In addition, the proofs and acceptance on the right side of the receiver will tell us if this is a WW1 that was reworked or an original 1920 (date) rather than a 1920 property stamping. if you could take a clear picture of the front grip strap, as it could be a weimar army marking or a weimar police marking. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-31-2008, 01:53 AM	#3
Cwilson User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	no suffix on serial number. i will have a picture uploaded tommorow

01-31-2008, 10:54 AM	#5
Cwilson User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i would love to know also, it was brought back from japan by my grandfather, and i guess he won it, as he was not in europe. i would ask but he recently passed and left it to me. might try grandma. Pictures are being taken and will be uploaded soon Thanks all

01-31-2008, 01:17 PM	#6
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	John's supposition is probably correct. I have owned 2 Lugers that came to the US via Japan courtesey of occupation troops. Tom A

02-02-2008, 11:30 AM	#7
tenbears User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 370 Thanks: 3 Thanked 26 Times in 15 Posts	A few years ago I aquirred a German SA dagger from a WWII Vet you won it in a poker game on a troop ship in the Pacific.

02-02-2008, 11:02 PM	#8
Cwilson User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Evening all. i am working on pics of this pistol, but here is what i have so far. Serial number of 536 with a squiggle under it that looks like a "b". The front strap is marked S. Ar.1.I.306 . The right side has 3 marks on it like eaglesor snowflakes the 1st is barely there. Clip # 1 marked on bottom 2468 then an "m" squiggle a plus sign and then an eagle with 63 under it. has an aluminum bottom. Clip#2 marked XO on side , eagle with 37 under it and p.08 . has a plastic bottom. Holster is marked 1./ R.R.13.14. . MADE BY tHICKE(?) IN 1918 behind the belt loop it is mark in a box L.Z. ST. J .FBG

02-03-2008, 01:12 AM	#12
Cwilson User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	serial # serial # Attached Thumbnails