LugerForum Discussion Forums my profile | register | faq | search
upload photo | donate | calendar

Go Back   LugerForum Discussion Forums > Luger Discussion Forums > Krieghoff Lugers

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 07-17-2005, 11:07 AM   #1
Pete Ebbink
User
 
Pete Ebbink's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The USA
Posts: 5,919
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Default HK Sight Tool

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...gory=4078&rd=1





And firing pin gague tool :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...gory=4078&rd=1


Pete Ebbink is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-21-2005, 07:05 PM   #2
Pete Ebbink
User
 
Pete Ebbink's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The USA
Posts: 5,919
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Default

Another HK on gauge on e-Bay in the same week...???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...gory=4078&rd=1

Just a WAG...but I do not like the looks of this 2nd. one...

Pete Ebbink is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-24-2005, 03:09 PM   #3
pisto
User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Germany
Posts: 228
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I don�´t know but would be suspicious about the first ones!
Just in matter of fact: Heinrich Krighoffs Logo is not "H & K" shouldn�´t it be an anchor between the 2 letters H and K ?
H & K is more like Heckler & Koch?
pisto is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-24-2005, 06:43 PM   #4
Imperial Arms
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Malta, EU
Posts: 579
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Default

Pisto has a good point. The logo on the sight adjustment tool seems to be correct, but the firing pin gauge could be suspicious.

In regards to the sight adjustment tool, I am curious as to why the finish on the gauge and the turning handle are different.

Albert
Imperial Arms is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-24-2005, 06:52 PM   #5
John D.
Administrator
& Site Owner
LugerForum
Patron
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: A Little NE of Somewhere...
Posts: 2,650
Thanks: 470
Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts
Default

Hey Guys....

Be careful out there.... Can anyone tell me what die type the "H"dagger"K" is on the sight adjustment tool? Me neither. Never saw a dagger blade in a scabbard....

The second post from Pete? I see the seller "found a few more in his Uncles lost warehouse" - which is why these all seem to keep popping up...

Careful.....

John D.
John D. is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-24-2005, 07:20 PM   #6
lugerholsterrepair
Moderator
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
lugerholsterrepair's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Arizona/Colorado
Posts: 7,756
Thanks: 4,822
Thanked 3,087 Times in 1,423 Posts
Default

Nice looking sight adjustment tool but I agree with Albert, The handle should have the wear not the sight block.
Mr Armstrong is high bidder and I know he knows what he's doing.
As for the dagger in a sheath, I cannot see the photo well enough ...I got my suspicions...Maybe Tom will comment on it..Jerry Burney
__________________
Jerry Burney
11491 S. Guadalupe Drive

Yuma AZ 85367-6182


lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net

928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round
719 207-3331 (cell)


"For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."
lugerholsterrepair is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-24-2005, 07:56 PM   #7
Ron Wood
Moderator
2010 LugerForum
Patron
 
Ron Wood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso
Posts: 6,985
Thanks: 1,059
Thanked 5,082 Times in 1,673 Posts
Default

This is just an uneducated WAG, but it looks to me like the sight block is case hardened and the handle is blued.
__________________
If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction
Ron Wood is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-24-2005, 09:41 PM   #8
lugerholsterrepair
Moderator
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
lugerholsterrepair's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Arizona/Colorado
Posts: 7,756
Thanks: 4,822
Thanked 3,087 Times in 1,423 Posts
Default

Ron, It dosen't look all that case hardned. If it is it's pretty slight, looks more like in the white to my tired holster repair eyes...Anyway, why would it need case hardening? It would experience no great shock or excessive wear. Isn't case hardening rare among German gun parts? Jerry Burney
__________________
Jerry Burney
11491 S. Guadalupe Drive

Yuma AZ 85367-6182


lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net

928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round
719 207-3331 (cell)


"For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."
lugerholsterrepair is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-24-2005, 10:17 PM   #9
Navy
RIP
 
Navy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia
Posts: 2,482
Thanks: 0
Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts
Default

Guys,

With a 14 day return policy, I am willing to "roll the dice".

Tom A.
Navy is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-24-2005, 10:53 PM   #10
Ron Wood
Moderator
2010 LugerForum
Patron
 
Ron Wood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso
Posts: 6,985
Thanks: 1,059
Thanked 5,082 Times in 1,673 Posts
Default

Jerry,
It very well could be just in the white. The grey color kind of suggested case hardening. It certainly wouldn't be to protect against shock (case hardening isn't very effective for that anyway) but since you would want to hold fairly close tolerances on securing the sight block to sight adjustment drive pin alignment, maybe case hardening might help. Just a shot in the dark and I'm probably all wet.
__________________
If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction
Ron Wood is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-25-2005, 02:44 PM   #11
pisto
User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Germany
Posts: 228
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Case hardening ore not, it culd also be surface alternated to be looking old using some acid. My fear is and I would suggest, the Markings are pantograped by a scilled engraver? These Sight tools show up in the same pattern more and more. Spending that money It isn�´t a joke anymore - the same with that Luger lanyard :"Catch Sling for P-38 and Luger 08 WW2 Item " 6546408452 I know and have seen a few dozen of them and I know
the guy selling those - they could not be original - but give the people what they want - Ebay makes it possible!
pisto is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-25-2005, 03:07 PM   #12
lugerholsterrepair
Moderator
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
lugerholsterrepair's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Arizona/Colorado
Posts: 7,756
Thanks: 4,822
Thanked 3,087 Times in 1,423 Posts
Default

Roland, I started out years ago making reproduction lanyards for the Luger pistol. They are pretty close to originals and I have gotten better at them over the years. I have one on Ebay right now but unlike the one you mention above, I have not stooped to making a poor replication and putting German marks on them.

I clearly state these are made by me in my Luger Holster Repair Shop and they are very handy for keeping your shooter from falling while at the range. I might also mention, the ones I make are very time consuming. The brass swivel is a little piece of jewelery. Very dainty and not easy to make. Well worth the $85.00 I start them at for a usefull representative example.

The above mentioned "catch Sling" has no such disclaimer. He implies but does not state the origin of these lanyards. That is perhaps why this sample, which is not authentic in any way, is at a high bid of $325.00
Jerry Burney

Anyone who likes can compare the two, Mine is the first

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...Name=WDVW&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6546408452
__________________
Jerry Burney
11491 S. Guadalupe Drive

Yuma AZ 85367-6182


lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net

928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round
719 207-3331 (cell)


"For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."
lugerholsterrepair is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-18-2005, 12:22 PM   #13
Pete Ebbink
User
 
Pete Ebbink's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The USA
Posts: 5,919
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Default Another HK Gauge Tool

Now on e-Bay :

http://cgi.ebay.com/Gauge-for-WH-pis...QQcmdZViewItem
Pete Ebbink is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-19-2005, 10:51 AM   #14
Vlim
Moderator
Lifetime
LugerForum Patron
 
Vlim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Europe
Posts: 5,015
Thanks: 1,014
Thanked 3,809 Times in 1,171 Posts
Default

Just for comparison:

This is a fairly modern P08 9mm sight tool I purchased a while ago. Although the main block seems to have a certain amount of wear and 'age' to it, I don't think this thing is older than say 20 - 25 years.

Note that the top and the handle are not dissimilar to the 'H&K' one. The real giveaway is the interior, modern spring, grease and retaining clip.

Pretty functional, this thing and a good fit. Got my 1906 Dutch sights straightened out using this handy little tool.





Vlim is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-20-2005, 01:36 PM   #15
Armin
User
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Germany
Posts: 35
Thanks: 0
Thanked 11 Times in 6 Posts
Default

Gerben,
the sight tool you showed us is not old. I bought one just a couple of months ago as new and it cost some 30 Euros. As you mentioned, it is a fine work and absolutely helpful to adjust a shooter's sight.
Armin.
Armin is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-23-2005, 08:56 PM   #16
Pete Ebbink
User
 
Pete Ebbink's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The USA
Posts: 5,919
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Default

Another HK guage tool...looks like it has the same number won, above, by a LF member...now it is for sale in Fayetteville, NC...wonder who that might be...?



http://cgi.ebay.com/WW-II-Luger-08-f...QQcmdZViewItem
Pete Ebbink is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-23-2005, 09:04 PM   #17
Navy
RIP
 
Navy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia
Posts: 2,482
Thanks: 0
Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts
Default

All,

The Kreighoff sight adjusting tool arrived today. It is right as rain. Very pleased to add it to the trove.

Tom A.
Navy is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 09-29-2005, 12:15 AM   #18
Pete Ebbink
User
 
Pete Ebbink's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The USA
Posts: 5,919
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Default

Same seller has another HK sight adjuster for sale...how many of these can one guy have...???

This ad claims "...lain 60 years in a Army gunsmith-box !...". Ad from July claimed the same...

http://cgi.ebay.com/German-Luger-08-...QQcmdZViewItem



Pete Ebbink is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 09-29-2005, 02:43 AM   #19
Ron Wood
Moderator
2010 LugerForum
Patron
 
Ron Wood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso
Posts: 6,985
Thanks: 1,059
Thanked 5,082 Times in 1,673 Posts
Default

Well, the seller at least dispels any notion of this being a Krieghoff tool, or even Heckler & Koch. Has anyone heard of "Hahn & Kolb Stuttgart,Tools factory"?
__________________
If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction
Ron Wood is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 09-29-2005, 10:58 AM   #20
John Sabato
Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
John Sabato's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Capital of the Free World
Posts: 10,150
Thanks: 3,003
Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts
Default

The are definitely a tool Company... Here is their website courtesy of a simple Google Search:

http://www.hahn-kolb.de/
__________________
regards, -John S

"...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL and are endowed by their Creator with certain UNALIENABLE rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."
John Sabato is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2023, Lugerforum.com