Strange Happenings at Gunbroker.com

George Anderson · 04-26-2004, 09:16 AM

Just back from visiting the above site. Using Luger as a search I came up with only 6 pages versus 12 yesterday. No items at all from Mr Fischer in Coperas Cave Texas. He, or someone, must have pulled all his auctions.

Frank · 04-26-2004, 09:55 AM

Gee, that's a shame!!!!

John Sabato · 04-26-2004, 10:06 AM

Might even be worth reading now... I get tired of wading through all that stuff without my shovel...

Ron Smith · 04-26-2004, 11:28 AM

Some of that stuff looked alittle shakey. IMO.

Ron

the gunman · 04-26-2004, 11:38 AM

A LITTLE SHAKEY !!!!!!

Navy · 04-26-2004, 03:13 PM

And PLEASE do not ask for the reserve!

Tom A.

John Sabato · 04-26-2004, 04:19 PM

That may be the problem Tom... maybe somebody asked for the reserve price! ...and did it in ALL CAPS and it was just too much for him to take...

George Anderson · 04-26-2004, 04:56 PM

He may also have "bought the farm", I vaguely recall some mention of his health. C'est la vie.

Edward Tinker · 04-26-2004, 05:11 PM

Oh no! All those "valuable" luggers!

George Anderson · 04-28-2004, 09:40 AM

He aint dead, just migrated. Check out how the number of pages at AA has grown.

MIKE MORRIS · 04-28-2004, 10:45 AM

Geez..........I wonder who is going to wind up with my " never recieved " 24 Luger holsters ? One was a 1902 Fat barrell commercial . I still have pictures of them..........

John Sabato · 04-28-2004, 10:57 AM

Mike, I think you ought to post the photos of those holsters that were "never received" by the dealer in question... perhaps one of our members has seen one or more of them while visiting Texas or for sale on an auction site.

Doubs · 04-28-2004, 02:10 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by John Sabato:
Might even be worth reading now... I get tired of wading through all that stuff without my shovel...

<hr /></blockquote>Shovel? Hip-boots would be more like it!

Big Norm · 04-28-2004, 11:18 PM

Nothing to say that would be different from what everybody above has said. I just wanted to agree with everyone else. I wonder if I missed anything good on GunBroker while trying to avoid this yahoo.

I did get a note from him once saying that he has a handicap and was dependant on someone else to take his pictures. No mention of what his handicap is.
Big Norm

Pete Ebbink · 04-29-2004, 06:22 PM

What you guys missed is that AuctionArms.com went from the typical 3 pages of "luger" stuff to over 6 pages in the same timeframe...that fellow goes by "DKF" over there...

Doubs...boots back on, I guess...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

minigun · 04-30-2004, 06:53 AM

Oh my gosh, that's the guy that I used to see at the Dallas Market Hall show. His "dipped Lugers" were way over priced. I almost bought one of his Lugers and someone warned me away. It was before knowing anything about them. Glad I asked before I bought.

Last I saw his health wasn't so good. He was dependant on oxygen last I saw.

MIKE MORRIS · 04-30-2004, 12:44 PM

John..........I'll get the photos of them and try to get them on the forum...I may need some help though. I found out as per your instuctions how to copy from my e-mail files, so I'll try that. But if they are already in someones collection, I can't ask for them back, just hard luck on my part for trusting this guy. He even once told me he worked for Air America......I made sure at the 1st of our dealings ( met him at the Dallas gun show ) that everything was conducted business wise. After many transactions I trusted him ( my mistake ) and sent him the holsters US mail. After 2 weeks I called him and he said he " never recieved them ". I then started going by his tables at shows to see if they would happen to be there. That's when I saw the reblues/fakery on his tables. You could have knocked me over with a feather !! After that people would come by( one in particular at the Tulsa show ) and ask me about a Luger they were going to buy from him and wanted my opinion. I just told him what I had seen and warned him to be VERY careful. He came back later and thanked me as he re examined the Luger and found it to be re stamped AND re blued. I have been tricked before and really belived what I bought at the time was genuine and found out later that I was duped. There are some really good fakers/restorers out there. They have become more prevelant in the last few years and that's one of the major factors why I'm leaving collecting. I've had great fun and met some really great people, and would do it all over if I could, but there comes a time in one's life when the old adage becomes beliveable " All good things come to an end ".

04-26-2004, 09:16 AM	#1
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,772 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Strange Happenings at Gunbroker.com Just back from visiting the above site. Using Luger as a search I came up with only 6 pages versus 12 yesterday. No items at all from Mr Fischer in Coperas Cave Texas. He, or someone, must have pulled all his auctions.

04-26-2004, 10:06 AM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Might even be worth reading now... I get tired of wading through all that stuff without my shovel... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-26-2004, 11:28 AM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Some of that stuff looked alittle shakey. IMO. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

04-26-2004, 04:19 PM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	That may be the problem Tom... maybe somebody asked for the reserve price! ...and did it in ALL CAPS and it was just too much for him to take... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-26-2004, 05:11 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,987 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	Oh no! All those "valuable" luggers! __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-26-2004, 09:55 AM	#2
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Gee, that's a shame!!!! <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" />

04-26-2004, 11:38 AM	#5
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	A LITTLE SHAKEY !!!!!!

04-26-2004, 03:13 PM	#6
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	And PLEASE do not ask for the reserve! Tom A.

04-26-2004, 04:56 PM	#8
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,772 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	He may also have "bought the farm", I vaguely recall some mention of his health. C'est la vie.

04-28-2004, 09:40 AM	#10
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,772 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	He aint dead, just migrated. Check out how the number of pages at AA has grown.

04-28-2004, 10:45 AM	#11
MIKE MORRIS User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: BULVERDE, TEXAS Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Geez..........I wonder who is going to wind up with my " never recieved " 24 Luger holsters ? One was a 1902 Fat barrell commercial . I still have pictures of them.......... __________________ MIKE MORRIS

04-28-2004, 10:57 AM	#12
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Mike, I think you ought to post the photos of those holsters that were "never received" by the dealer in question... perhaps one of our members has seen one or more of them while visiting Texas or for sale on an auction site. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-28-2004, 02:10 PM	#13
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,670 Thanks: 769 Thanked 1,614 Times in 525 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by John Sabato: <strong>Might even be worth reading now... I get tired of wading through all that stuff without my shovel... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Shovel? Hip-boots would be more like it!

04-28-2004, 11:18 PM	#14
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Nothing to say that would be different from what everybody above has said. I just wanted to agree with everyone else. I wonder if I missed anything good on GunBroker while trying to avoid this yahoo. I did get a note from him once saying that he has a handicap and was dependant on someone else to take his pictures. No mention of what his handicap is. Big Norm

04-29-2004, 06:22 PM	#15
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	What you guys missed is that AuctionArms.com went from the typical 3 pages of "luger" stuff to over 6 pages in the same timeframe...that fellow goes by "DKF" over there... Doubs...boots back on, I guess... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

04-30-2004, 06:53 AM	#16
minigun User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 424 Thanks: 15 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	Oh my gosh, that's the guy that I used to see at the Dallas Market Hall show. His "dipped Lugers" were way over priced. I almost bought one of his Lugers and someone warned me away. It was before knowing anything about them. Glad I asked before I bought. Last I saw his health wasn't so good. He was dependant on oxygen last I saw.

04-30-2004, 12:44 PM	#17
MIKE MORRIS User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: BULVERDE, TEXAS Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	John..........I'll get the photos of them and try to get them on the forum...I may need some help though. I found out as per your instuctions how to copy from my e-mail files, so I'll try that. But if they are already in someones collection, I can't ask for them back, just hard luck on my part for trusting this guy. He even once told me he worked for Air America......I made sure at the 1st of our dealings ( met him at the Dallas gun show ) that everything was conducted business wise. After many transactions I trusted him ( my mistake ) and sent him the holsters US mail. After 2 weeks I called him and he said he " never recieved them ". I then started going by his tables at shows to see if they would happen to be there. That's when I saw the reblues/fakery on his tables. You could have knocked me over with a feather !! After that people would come by( one in particular at the Tulsa show ) and ask me about a Luger they were going to buy from him and wanted my opinion. I just told him what I had seen and warned him to be VERY careful. He came back later and thanked me as he re examined the Luger and found it to be re stamped AND re blued. I have been tricked before and really belived what I bought at the time was genuine and found out later that I was duped. There are some really good fakers/restorers out there. They have become more prevelant in the last few years and that's one of the major factors why I'm leaving collecting. I've had great fun and met some really great people, and would do it all over if I could, but there comes a time in one's life when the old adage becomes beliveable " All good things come to an end ". __________________ MIKE MORRIS