Confirmation of Police Marks

[Don M]

I'm a bit hamstrung in researching Weimar Police marks by not yet having the classical references. Can someone confirm/provide info on the following guns?

DWM S/N 4134n on p. 140 of "Weimar & Early Nazi Lugers"

DWM S/N 4335u on p. 153 of same reference

DWM S/N 5749q on p. 138 of same reference

DWM S/N 7777q on p. 136 of same reference

S/N 71812 on p. 234 of same reference

Luger with "P.S." on grip strap on p.111 of same reference

Luger with "LS.Al.45." on grip strap on p.104 of "German Small Arms Markings"

Luger with "SP.Bn.1198" on grip strap on p.148 of "Luger Variations"

For each of these guns, I need the following information:

* Logo on toggle
* Full serial number with suffix
* Exact grip strap mark with all periods
* Existence or evidence of sear safety
* Chamber date and/or property date

Jan Still has printed a new batch of "Weimar Lugers" and I have ordered one but I'm anxious to get this info. Thanks for any help.

Don

[Dwight Gruber]

"DWM S/N 4134n on p. 140 of "Weimar & Early Nazi Lugers"
DWM, 4134n, S.Sch.I.xxx (Roman numeral 1, weapon numbers unreadable) all X'ed out, sear safety, mag safety, 1920

"DWM S/N 4335u on p. 153 of same reference"
Blank toggle, 4335u, L.D.111. , sear safety, mag safety, no chamber mark

"DWM S/N 5749q on p. 138 of same reference"
DWM, 5749q, S.D.III.R.43. (Roman Numeral 3, R x'ed out), sear safety, no chamber mark

"DWM S/N 7777q on p. 136 of same reference"
DWM, 777q (from text, not pictured), no grip strap mark noted or pictured, sear safety, no chamber mark

"S/N 71812 on p. 234 of same reference"
DWM, 71812, no grip strap mark, sear safety, mag safety, no chamber mark

"Luger with "P.S." on grip strap on p.111 of same reference"
Erfurt, 7683(no suffix), P.S.11. (stamped "upside down" compared to normal practice), sear safety, 1911

"Luger with "LS.Al.45." on grip strap on p.104 of "German Small Arms Markings""
Blank toggle, 3051u, LS.Al.45. , sear safety, mag safety, no chamber mark (all except grip strap mark from text)

"Luger with "SP.Bn.1198" on grip strap on p.148 of "Luger Variations""
SP.Bn.xxx.1198. (first three-numeral weapon number x'ed out) No other details can be drtermined from either photos or text

For each of these guns, I need the following information:

* Logo on toggle
* Full serial number with suffix
* Exact grip strap mark with all periods
* Existence or evidence of sear safety
* Chamber date and/or propery date

--Dwight

[Don M]

WOW! What quick service! Thanks very much, Dwight.

Things are beginning to get interesting as some patterns are beginning to emerge from the data.

As I mentioned, I have ordered a copy of "Weimar Lugers" from Jan Still and will mine it for additional data on police marks. However, it's unlikely that I'll have access to a copy of "German Small Arms Markings" or "Luger Variations" anytime soon. If you or anyone else is inclined to search those sources for references to other Weimar police Lugers and provide the requested information, I would be very grateful.

Thanks again for the help. I hope that once you see the results, you'll be pleased.

Don