Training Luger?

jeb111 · 03-26-2021, 12:33 PM

I saw posted from Legacy Collectibles a "very rare Mauser training Luger" for sale. It seems to me to be just a mismatched pistol. Is this really a rare type of Luger or just a selling gimmick sort of like the "Black Widow"? Seems like a lot of money 28 hundred, for a mismatched pistol.

Edward Tinker · 03-26-2021, 12:55 PM

link? or pictures and description?

spangy · 03-26-2021, 02:17 PM

https://www.legacy-collectibles.com/...ger-14961.html

3/25/21 - This is a nice example of a very rare Mauser training Luger. The chamber is marked "Ub" for "Ubungswaffe" or "drill practice weapon". The general consensus among collectors is that these guns were put together from scrap parts and used by the Mauser factory to train employees on how to shoot the luger properly. They are very rare. The gun is all matching, but most parts have been re-numbered by the factory to match. There are unit markings on the front strap - we are not sure of the meaning. It has retained about 70% of its original finish. The straps are bare. There is minor wear on the side plate and high edges of the slide and frame. Thinning on the left side of the frame. Comes with excellent wood grips and a mismatched period-correct magazine. The bore is near-mint.

DonVoigt · 03-26-2021, 03:13 PM

Yes, "Ub" lugers are a legit variation.

jeb111 · 03-26-2021, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Yes, "Ub" lugers are a legit variation.

Ah OK I just never have heard of them before, but they still seem to me just a mismatched nothing special Luger, even if they were used to train factory workers in the use of the pistol, especially if you can buy a mismatch for a third of that asking price!

Vlim · 03-26-2021, 07:06 PM

Then perhaps consider another collecting area....

Lugers with a factory use provenance are rarer than hen's teeth and cannot be compared to ordinary shooter grade pistols.

MikeP · 03-26-2021, 11:10 PM

Learned something new. Cool.

jeb111 · 03-27-2021, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlim

Then perhaps consider another collecting area....

Lugers with a factory use provenance are rarer than hen's teeth and cannot be compared to ordinary shooter grade pistols.

Don’t get me wrong, I get it but for the factory use proof that parts pistol becomes a more valuable collectible. See it all the time on “Antiques Roadshow” someone brings an item in that they bought at a flea market for $10 and the appraiser finds a proof or signature and suddenly that $10 item is worth 10 thousand! I will continue collecting Lugers I just probably won’t compete for that type of pistol but absolutely respect a collector’s decision who does want them!

cirelaw · 03-27-2021, 09:24 AM

TRAINING LUGER https://www.legacy-collectibles.com/...ger-14961.html

mrerick · 03-27-2021, 01:04 PM

A cutaway!!! My kingdom for a cutaway! (Unfortunately, literally...)

cirelaw · 03-27-2021, 02:34 PM

Cut away lger for sale! https://simpsonltd.com/mauser-1940-luger-cutaway/ Very Cool!

03-26-2021, 12:33 PM	#1
jeb111 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2018 Location: wyoming Posts: 277 Thanks: 712 Thanked 331 Times in 133 Posts	Training Luger? I saw posted from Legacy Collectibles a "very rare Mauser training Luger" for sale. It seems to me to be just a mismatched pistol. Is this really a rare type of Luger or just a selling gimmick sort of like the "Black Widow"? Seems like a lot of money 28 hundred, for a mismatched pistol.

03-26-2021, 02:17 PM	#3
spangy Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 617 Thanks: 3,065 Thanked 1,057 Times in 429 Posts	https://www.legacy-collectibles.com/...ger-14961.html 3/25/21 - This is a nice example of a very rare Mauser training Luger. The chamber is marked "Ub" for "Ubungswaffe" or "drill practice weapon". The general consensus among collectors is that these guns were put together from scrap parts and used by the Mauser factory to train employees on how to shoot the luger properly. They are very rare. The gun is all matching, but most parts have been re-numbered by the factory to match. There are unit markings on the front strap - we are not sure of the meaning. It has retained about 70% of its original finish. The straps are bare. There is minor wear on the side plate and high edges of the slide and frame. Thinning on the left side of the frame. Comes with excellent wood grips and a mismatched period-correct magazine. The bore is near-mint. __________________ Whoever said that "money can't buy you happiness" never bought a Luger. WTB - Take Down Lever & Trigger Plate (#90) for an Imperial Artillery.

03-26-2021, 03:13 PM	#4
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Yes, "Ub" lugers are a legit variation. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

03-27-2021, 09:24 AM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	TRAINING LUGER https://www.legacy-collectibles.com/...ger-14961.html Attached Thumbnails

03-27-2021, 01:04 PM	#10
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	A cutaway!!! My kingdom for a cutaway! (Unfortunately, literally...) __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

03-26-2021, 12:55 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,931 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	link? or pictures and description?

03-26-2021, 07:06 PM	#6
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Then perhaps consider another collecting area.... Lugers with a factory use provenance are rarer than hen's teeth and cannot be compared to ordinary shooter grade pistols.

03-26-2021, 11:10 PM	#7
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	Learned something new. Cool.

03-27-2021, 02:34 PM	#11
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Cut away lger for sale! https://simpsonltd.com/mauser-1940-luger-cutaway/ Very Cool!