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05-02-2017, 11:10 PM | #1 |
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British Capture, Yea or Nay?
Sorry, I feel like I'm spamming the site with my posts but I know you guys have the knowledge I don't. Anyway, this gentleman from the other site is selling this 1918 dwm British Capture and is asking $1500, matching magazine. I'm not familiar with the Brit values and whether or not this looks original? I see an awful lot of markings on the barrel and an extra stamp on the breacjnlock. what do you guys think? legit? price good?
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To me all the scribbling under the barrel are the equivalent of our import markings. I have always held that this is how the Brits kept unemployment low, by giving everyone a stamp and having them put their marks on guns that came into the UK.
Also the "980" on the left side of the upper looks a bit odd. I guess I'll sum it up that if I had my choice of this gun OR and identical 1918 DWM without all the UK proofhouse marks, I'd take the one not so decorated. dju |
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Guns with Brit proofs are interesting history. My observation is they are valued less that those without English test proofs. I agree with the opinion of DavidJayUden.
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Interarms had a large warehouse in Manchester. A lot of guns that passed through Manchester were UK proofed.
I have a Vickers that was proofed twice and, the humanity, got the 'not english make' marking the second time |
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The markings on the right side of the frame look OK in the pic, although I can't recall having seen one like the first in line on the left. I have not looked it up yet...but maybe that's your job! My 1917/1920 reworked former Arty also has 5 (including the "flaming squirrel"). Nasty looking collection of graffiti on the bbl., for sure, but part and parcel of the variation, for the most part, so if you want a British capture for the collection, the price seems reasonable to me.
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The British proofs are the same to me as the importers stamps. They have to detract from the value. They were never there originally. If it is reasonable enough and one can live with all this mess on the barrel fine. I have owned a couple but sold them . Bill
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It's "legit"; you just have to decide if you want one that traveled through and got English proofed.
Price is about what you could find one without the extra proofing for.
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Although no pictures, the FAQ - which i hope you downloaded or printed, has a complete section on british markings
AND you realize that many members here are member there "on the other forum" - but not always never hurts to ask, however, the FAQ is very helpful |
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thanks, guys! I appreciate everyone's input. I don't specifically crave one but I didn't know if if was a deal too good to pass up. I have 3 copies of the high resolution FAQ, but that sometimes can be open to interpretation of the meaning of what's written...sometimes....like the crouching squirrel thing that threw me off
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I agree with Don. The British proofs make a cool conversational piece but not worth paying anything extra for...(All else being equal)...
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Pretty cool Luger, did you buy it?
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