Want to buy this Luger

[dorfmunger]

Looking to get my first Luger. Found this one on line. What is a good price to pay? Sorry this is all the pictures on the listing. Its in .30 cal and includes two mags, one is a reproduction.

Any help will be greatly appreciated,

Thomas

[nukem556]

looks to be a common 1920's Commercial with butchered up grips... you'd do good at 500-600....any more, well your call

[lugerholsterrepair]

I would hesitate to waste any money on this dog..The grips have been ruined..the only original magazine is broken in half..It's in .30 Luger so you will spend $30+ a box for ammo..It's only a shooter and do all the parts match? What does the bore look like? Does it function? There is little information to go on but what there is..Keep saving your money and get a respectable Luger. I would take a chance at $300 but more than that would not make me comfortable.

[nukem556]

well, at current market prices , i'll buy all the equivalent "dogs" you can supply me at 300.00 a pop, Jerry

[lugerholsterrepair]

Bob, I have to agree..I would too. What I am saying here is I don't really want this pistol. IF one like it came along at $300 I would buy it like you would. Any more than that and what do I need so many dogs for? I have a half dozen now I bought for $3-400 so I should really sell them and buy the rightous pistol I really want for the money.
I piddle away money I could use when a good deal comes along. Now I have too many Lugers..A guy who wants his first one is a different buyer mentality I can tell you!

My advice to the guy looking for his first Luger..wait, be patient, save your money and study, ask questions. When the right one appears..JUMP all over it. But don't waste your money on junker .30 commercials. Besides the seller likely wants $900 for it not $300.

[MFC]

The sideplate is numbered in the military style. It must be mismatched.

[dorfmunger]

Thanks for the advise.
I think I'll bit my time and wait for the right one. BTW this is a mismatch gun and the seller is asking for $500.
Thomas

[Ron Wood]

If it was in 9mm that wouldn't be too terrible a price for a good shooter, but the .30 cal makes it a lot less desirable.

[Lugerdoc]

OK Guys, Sell me your $300/$400 unpitted dogs for parts, if you want me to be there when you need them. TH

[rhuff]

If the OP is a reloader, and the bore and other parts are o.k./good, then $500.00 is not out of line for my part of the Country. Ralph S. bought up all of the really cheap good ones years ago from here.

[lugerholsterrepair]

Knowing what I do about the pistol.., broken mag, mismatched sideplate! YIKES! and the grips belt sanded down to so thin they will break in half..Then.. I don't know if it will even fire or function. Or the bore condition..or is it missing internal parts like a holdopen..$300 is still tops for me. Guess I am jaded...

[MFC]

And the stock lug was ground off...

[Michael Zeleny]

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

If it was in 9mm that wouldn't be too terrible a price for a good shooter, but the .30 cal makes it a lot less desirable.

In fairness, 7.65 Para is much more reliable in Lugers, which were never meant to chamber anything over 8mm.

[Ron Wood]

Originally Posted by Michael Zeleny

...which were never meant to chamber anything over 8mm.

Interesting. Why?

[Michael Zeleny]

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

Interesting. Why?

I suspect that this was due to Georg's sensible wish to preserve the bottleneck configuration he inherited from Hugo Borchardt. The record of his original intent is well attested, e.g. in The Luger Story by John Walter.

[lugerholsterrepair]

Lugers, were never meant to chamber anything over 8mm.

Michael..If this can be substantiated or not I cannot say.. but I must respectfully disagree with this in fact.

The Luger pistol works wonderfully in 9MM. I have my beater 1916 Luger I use for a fitting pistol on my leather bench. Anytime someone comes to my leather shop and we get to talking Lugers it is the first pistol I show them and always ask..want to shoot a Luger? Just yesterday my 2 nieces..16 & 17 years old wanted to. Over 500 rounds without a stoppage in the hands of anyone who picks it up..Winchester White box and my re loads.

I guess then we have to discuss what the deffinition of "meant" means? Cause meant to or not.. my old warhorse swallows em whole..no problem.

[Michael Zeleny]

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

Lugers, were never meant to chamber anything over 8mm.

Michael..If this can be substantiated or not I cannot say.. but I must respectfully disagree with this in fact.

I am referring to the original intent of the eponym. As evidenced by District of Columbia v. Heller, we are all originalists now.

[lugerholsterrepair]

Michael you have gone above my pay grade. Lets take it back to where this old mountain man can discuss another point worth discussing.

In fairness, 7.65 Para is much more reliable in Lugers

...Again.. I respectfully disagree. How can 100% performance be less reliable? Speaking from my own recent experience..you would be hard pressed to substantiate this statement.

over 500 rounds of 9MM..NOT ONE stoppage. I guess to be absolutely correct I would have to fire 500 rounds of .30 Luger to do a comparison but I think my point is going to be tough to beat.

[Michael Zeleny]

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

In fairness, 7.65 Para is much more reliable in Lugers

...Again.. I respectfully disagree. How can 100% performance be less reliable? Speaking from my own recent experience..you would be hard pressed to substantiate this statement.

Jerry, I am not, and cannot be, speaking from your own experience. My original point was historical, but if anyone wishes to set up a proper comparison test, I'll gladly contribute and cooperate.

[lugerholsterrepair]

I am sorry to mislead you..I thought it was I speaking from my own experience. You would be the party of the second part, attempting to substantiate YOUR statement.."In fairness, 7.65 Para is much more reliable in Lugers" to the party of the first part with the experience..Me. Be that as it may..The thing boils down to who said what as I have no access to the reference you site. Not true..I am too lazy to go to my library and see if this book is here or in Yuma..And look thru every page untill I come to this vague reference..page wise that is.
Is your reference of this opinion.."In fairness, 7.65 Para is much more reliable in Lugers?" Or is this your statement? Or is it your reference... and you agree with it enough to try to disprove my experience?
Let us disect this alarming statement..In fairness, 7.65 Para is much more reliable in Lugers..I have one word that seems a bit much and I repeat myself.."much" If the .30 Luger is much more reliable than my faithful 9MM how much is much? How many rounds would we have to fire without a stoppage to determine much? I have fired over 500 already. If you can fire 500 and neither of us has a stoppage..do we go on or declare a draw? If you have even ONE stoppage in 500 rounds..then the statement could be declared false.

So.. if you are true to your word..".but if anyone wishes to set up a proper comparison test, I'll gladly contribute and cooperate". Go fire 500 rounds of .30 Luger and report back with your findings!