Help ID a couple of mags

uscavman · 03-04-2013, 10:47 PM

I have two magazines I am looking for more information on. I only have WW1 era DWM Lugers and I am not that knowledgable about other era Lugers. One I have been using in order to not damage my original numbered DWM mags. I am not sure if they are original or post WW2. Both mags look like original DWM mags. Nickel plated with different bases.

The first has a brown bakelite base, nice condition. Looks as though someone tried to remove the pin in the base.

The second has a wood base without any markings. Pretty tarnished but looks like it will clean up nicely oon one spot I have cleaned. Base has a crack and is loose in the mag. Stills holds when full but am worried it won't for long.

Any help on the identification of these and possible value. Thanks.

mrerick · 03-04-2013, 10:57 PM

Sorry, nothing shows up on Photobucket. Why not post the pictures here?

Your best approach to restoring vintage Luger magazines would be to contact G.T. (Gerald) on this forum.

These are something that you probably shouldn't consider working on yourself...

Marc

lugerholsterrepair · 03-05-2013, 12:40 AM

Your brown bakelite base mag is Swiss. Might have a script P on the lower back spine.

Your rusty mag is a WW1 type..likely late steel. Keep cleaning! Get that nasty rust off. It never sleeps. It will be pitted if left on.

Both mags worth about the same IMO. I would say $70-80 on the Swiss and say..$60-70 on the wood bottom. There might be other opinions on price but that's mine.

uscavman · 03-05-2013, 01:08 AM

Thanks Jerry. There is no script P on the spine. What's the best way to clean. I have used steel wool and wd40. Got most the rust off but has left some darker spots. No pitting. If I keep cleaning will the spots eventually come off.

Lugerdoc · 03-05-2013, 12:47 PM

From your photos, I would say that the first mag is not Swiss, as these had DOUBLE PINNED brown plastic bottoms, that are marked with a cross on both sides of the bottom piece. The body is probably a pre-1938 Mauser nickel plated tube with a replacement (might be marked Franzite inside) plastic piece. Your pitted mag is a tin plated Weimar era DWM mag with a typical, to this period, cross-grain commerical unnumbered wood bottom. TH

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uscavman User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Help ID a couple of mags I have two magazines I am looking for more information on. I only have WW1 era DWM Lugers and I am not that knowledgable about other era Lugers. One I have been using in order to not damage my original numbered DWM mags. I am not sure if they are original or post WW2. Both mags look like original DWM mags. Nickel plated with different bases. The first has a brown bakelite base, nice condition. Looks as though someone tried to remove the pin in the base. The second has a wood base without any markings. Pretty tarnished but looks like it will clean up nicely oon one spot I have cleaned. Base has a crack and is loose in the mag. Stills holds when full but am worried it won't for long. Any help on the identification of these and possible value. Thanks.

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Sorry, nothing shows up on Photobucket. Why not post the pictures here? Your best approach to restoring vintage Luger magazines would be to contact G.T. (Gerald) on this forum. These are something that you probably shouldn't consider working on yourself... Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

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lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,931 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Your brown bakelite base mag is Swiss. Might have a script P on the lower back spine. Your rusty mag is a WW1 type..likely late steel. Keep cleaning! Get that nasty rust off. It never sleeps. It will be pitted if left on. Both mags worth about the same IMO. I would say $70-80 on the Swiss and say..$60-70 on the wood bottom. There might be other opinions on price but that's mine. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

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uscavman User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Jerry. There is no script P on the spine. What's the best way to clean. I have used steel wool and wd40. Got most the rust off but has left some darker spots. No pitting. If I keep cleaning will the spots eventually come off. Last edited by uscavman; 03-05-2013 at 01:17 PM.

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Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	From your photos, I would say that the first mag is not Swiss, as these had DOUBLE PINNED brown plastic bottoms, that are marked with a cross on both sides of the bottom piece. The body is probably a pre-1938 Mauser nickel plated tube with a replacement (might be marked Franzite inside) plastic piece. Your pitted mag is a tin plated Weimar era DWM mag with a typical, to this period, cross-grain commerical unnumbered wood bottom. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net