"product liability" trigger

riffraff · 11-01-2003, 11:03 PM

I have the Stoeger stainless Luger. From what I remember about my old, real Luger, even though it was the conglomeration of parts that it was, the trigger pull of my stainless definately seems to be of the new age manufacture "product liability" way to stiff/heavy for fun shooting type. Keeping in mind the Orimar product, what part/parts do I need to change, or can change due to the stainless construction/finish to get a decent(don't have to be King Kong) trigger? Can it be as simple as just replacing the spring behind the trigger? Comments/suggestions everyone? Mike

unspellable · 11-03-2003, 01:14 PM

First problem is to determine what makes it so stiff. Not a ssimple as with some other firearms as the Luger trigger linkage is complicated.

First, take the upper or cannon off the frame and see if the trigger moves freely in the frame. This will also give you a good indication of how stiff the trigger spring is. Second, put the side plate on and make sure the trigger lever moves freely through the correct range. (Bit difficult to desribe without pictures.) Put a snap cap in the cannon and trip the sear by depressing the front of the sear bar. Push in o nthe disconnector plunger with your thumbnail to do this.

There's much more to the story but this will be the first three things to try in order to determine what direction to look in.

I have seen more than one Luger in which the trigger moved all the way to the rear and hit the stop with out tripping the sear. Further pressure would then trip the sear. The most likely cause being a misfitted trigger lever, the second most likely cause being a misfitted trigger. If the thumbnail on the disconnector trick proves stiff, the sear bar or striker may be misfitted.

riffraff · 11-03-2003, 06:06 PM

Thank You Unspell. I will follow your instructions when I have time (you know how hectic life can be) and then post my findings. I may have overstated the stiffness of my trigger. I do not think there is anything defective, but then again there might be. Thanks! Mike

Stu · 11-03-2003, 08:33 PM

My 93 Stoeger has a trigger pull similar to my other Lugers. Very sound advice from unspellable, you may find that a little adjustment improves matters ?

AGE · 11-03-2003, 11:42 PM

Even if everything else is OK the trigger will be stiff because the sear and firing pin interface has an angle that requires pulling back the firing pin to release the engagement. Look at this area carefully.

11-01-2003, 11:03 PM	#1
riffraff User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: central Arkansas Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	"product liability" trigger I have the Stoeger stainless Luger. From what I remember about my old, real Luger, even though it was the conglomeration of parts that it was, the trigger pull of my stainless definately seems to be of the new age manufacture "product liability" way to stiff/heavy for fun shooting type. Keeping in mind the Orimar product, what part/parts do I need to change, or can change due to the stainless construction/finish to get a decent(don't have to be King Kong) trigger? Can it be as simple as just replacing the spring behind the trigger? Comments/suggestions everyone? Mike __________________ Time Warp

11-03-2003, 06:06 PM	#3
riffraff User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: central Arkansas Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank You Unspell. I will follow your instructions when I have time (you know how hectic life can be) and then post my findings. I may have overstated the stiffness of my trigger. I do not think there is anything defective, but then again there might be. Thanks! Mike __________________ Time Warp

11-03-2003, 11:42 PM	#5
AGE User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 597 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Even if everything else is OK the trigger will be stiff because the sear and firing pin interface has an angle that requires pulling back the firing pin to release the engagement. Look at this area carefully. __________________ Al Eggers (AGE) NRA Life Member

11-03-2003, 01:14 PM	#2
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 10 Posts	First problem is to determine what makes it so stiff. Not a ssimple as with some other firearms as the Luger trigger linkage is complicated. First, take the upper or cannon off the frame and see if the trigger moves freely in the frame. This will also give you a good indication of how stiff the trigger spring is. Second, put the side plate on and make sure the trigger lever moves freely through the correct range. (Bit difficult to desribe without pictures.) Put a snap cap in the cannon and trip the sear by depressing the front of the sear bar. Push in o nthe disconnector plunger with your thumbnail to do this. There's much more to the story but this will be the first three things to try in order to determine what direction to look in. I have seen more than one Luger in which the trigger moved all the way to the rear and hit the stop with out tripping the sear. Further pressure would then trip the sear. The most likely cause being a misfitted trigger lever, the second most likely cause being a misfitted trigger. If the thumbnail on the disconnector trick proves stiff, the sear bar or striker may be misfitted.

11-03-2003, 08:33 PM	#4
Stu User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 451 Thanks: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 16 Posts	My 93 Stoeger has a trigger pull similar to my other Lugers. Very sound advice from unspellable, you may find that a little adjustment improves matters ?