Another magazine question...

PRD1 · 06-01-2019, 04:22 PM

What is the correct magazine type for a 'G' date S/42 pistol? I've been unable to find any source which would answer the question, thusfar. The pistol came with a badly battered nickel plated magazine with an aluminum base, which I don't believe is right. I'd like to have at least one proper magazine for the pistol (and already might, actually), but I need to know what to look for. The pistol itself is in pretty nice shape and matching - except for the magazine...

Thanks;

PRD1 - mhb - MIke

k98mike · 06-01-2019, 04:33 PM

Rolled sheet metal held together with a crimp, slant cut aluminum base secured at the base with a pin through base and tube. Tube is nickel plated. (credit to Jan C. Still's "Third Reich Lugers" page 125.) And of course serial # and suffix, and acceptance mark.

PRD1 · 06-02-2019, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k98mike

Rolled sheet metal held together with a crimp, slant cut aluminum base secured at the base with a pin through base and tube. Tube is nickel plated. (credit to Jan C. Still's "Third Reich Lugers" page 125.) And of course serial # and suffix, and acceptance mark.

It appears that the magazine that came with the pistol is the correct type, though badly abused. The serial number does not match, but the code '42' appears on the base. Now, if I can find a better example...

PRD1 - mhb - MIke

k98mike · 06-02-2019, 08:08 AM

I also have a G date, one of my favorites!

Lugerdoc · 06-02-2019, 11:04 AM

Mike, It would be helpful if you show the serial, including suffix letter, of your pistol to find a mag as near as possible with the proper inspectors marking (Waffenamt), as there were 5 changes of WaA during the 1935 (G date) year. TH

PRD1 · 06-02-2019, 01:02 PM

Apparently the question is more complex than I thought. However, the serial number of the 'G' date is 5886 b.

Thanks;

PRD1 - mhb - MIke

guns3545 · 06-02-2019, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRD1

Apparently the question is more complex than I thought. However, the serial number of the 'G' date is 5886 b.

Thanks;

PRD1 - mhb - MIke

Mike,

A mid-b block gun would probably have an Droop Eagle 154 magazine, with full serial number and suffix , and with, or without, a plus sign.

The magazine you have is a later armorer's replacement as indicated by the 42.

John

PRD1 · 06-02-2019, 07:58 PM

I have to admit I'm not knowledgeable on Luger magazines (or, really, Lugers). So, I still have questions:
Would the proper magazine be nickel-plated?
Would it be marked 'S/42', rather than simply '42' (as I understand it, both are manufacturer's codes for DWM, but at different periods).
The magazine which came with the pistol does have a full serial number with suffix, the '42' code and a plus sign (which indicates what?).

Thanks for your patience...

PRD1 - mhb - MIke

k98mike · 06-02-2019, 08:09 PM

The magazine would be nickel plated. S/42 and 42 are Mauser codes. The base would have the serial, suffix, and inspection stamp' and a + on the spare. The code S/42 appears on the toggle train only. 42 was an armorers replacement code. Cheers!

tharpo · 06-02-2019, 08:17 PM

Mike,
Here is what a correct G date magazine with a "b" suffix looks like. This magazine has a shiny plated body.
S/42, 42, and byf are codes for Mauser but these codes were not stamped on the matching magazine bottoms that came with the gun.
The exceptions are that S/42 and 42 were stamped on replacement magazine bottoms.
If you could post a photo of your magazine it would help.

PRD1 · 06-02-2019, 08:51 PM

I think you have answered my questions very fully. I'm sure that the magazine I have is, in fact, a replacement of later date, and no great prize. I will keep an eye out for a correct magazine or two, but do not consider it a high priority. I have sufficient good Luger magazines of various types for all practical purposes, and really just want good function, though it would be nice to have at least one 'correct' magazine for each of my Lugers (I have 4, now). In fact, I was shooting my 1918 DWM today - it's all matching with about 75% remaining finish and a very good bore, and very accurate - it also has the best trigger of all my Lugers.
I like Lugers!

PRD1 - mhb - MIke

Lugerdoc · 06-03-2019, 09:25 AM

mike, I only have one E/154 marked G date mag available: #1434c+ in exc original condition @$200 + $10 S&H. TH

PRD1 · 06-03-2019, 10:20 AM

Thanks. I'll consider it a while...

PRD1 - mhb - MIke

06-01-2019, 04:33 PM	#2
k98mike User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Newnan, GA Posts: 141 Thanks: 280 Thanked 48 Times in 30 Posts	G date mag Rolled sheet metal held together with a crimp, slant cut aluminum base secured at the base with a pin through base and tube. Tube is nickel plated. (credit to Jan C. Still's "Third Reich Lugers" page 125.) And of course serial # and suffix, and acceptance mark.

06-02-2019, 08:08 AM	#4
k98mike User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Newnan, GA Posts: 141 Thanks: 280 Thanked 48 Times in 30 Posts	My "G" I also have a G date, one of my favorites!

06-02-2019, 11:04 AM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Mike, It would be helpful if you show the serial, including suffix letter, of your pistol to find a mag as near as possible with the proper inspectors marking (Waffenamt), as there were 5 changes of WaA during the 1935 (G date) year. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

06-02-2019, 01:02 PM	#6
PRD1 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: S.E. AZ Posts: 69 Thanks: 18 Thanked 32 Times in 8 Posts	Th: Apparently the question is more complex than I thought. However, the serial number of the 'G' date is 5886 b. Thanks; PRD1 - mhb - MIke __________________ Sancho! My armor!

06-02-2019, 07:58 PM	#8
PRD1 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: S.E. AZ Posts: 69 Thanks: 18 Thanked 32 Times in 8 Posts	Thanks, guns... I have to admit I'm not knowledgeable on Luger magazines (or, really, Lugers). So, I still have questions: Would the proper magazine be nickel-plated? Would it be marked 'S/42', rather than simply '42' (as I understand it, both are manufacturer's codes for DWM, but at different periods). The magazine which came with the pistol does have a full serial number with suffix, the '42' code and a plus sign (which indicates what?). Thanks for your patience... PRD1 - mhb - MIke __________________ Sancho! My armor!

06-01-2019, 04:22 PM	#1
PRD1 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: S.E. AZ Posts: 69 Thanks: 18 Thanked 32 Times in 8 Posts	Another magazine question... What is the correct magazine type for a 'G' date S/42 pistol? I've been unable to find any source which would answer the question, thusfar. The pistol came with a badly battered nickel plated magazine with an aluminum base, which I don't believe is right. I'd like to have at least one proper magazine for the pistol (and already might, actually), but I need to know what to look for. The pistol itself is in pretty nice shape and matching - except for the magazine... Thanks; PRD1 - mhb - MIke __________________ Sancho! My armor!

06-02-2019, 08:09 PM	#9
k98mike User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Newnan, GA Posts: 141 Thanks: 280 Thanked 48 Times in 30 Posts	Nickel The magazine would be nickel plated. S/42 and 42 are Mauser codes. The base would have the serial, suffix, and inspection stamp' and a + on the spare. The code S/42 appears on the toggle train only. 42 was an armorers replacement code. Cheers!

06-02-2019, 08:17 PM	#10
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 536 Thanks: 116 Thanked 375 Times in 153 Posts	Mike, Here is what a correct G date magazine with a "b" suffix looks like. This magazine has a shiny plated body. S/42, 42, and byf are codes for Mauser but these codes were not stamped on the matching magazine bottoms that came with the gun. The exceptions are that S/42 and 42 were stamped on replacement magazine bottoms. If you could post a photo of your magazine it would help. Attached Thumbnails

06-02-2019, 08:51 PM	#11
PRD1 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: S.E. AZ Posts: 69 Thanks: 18 Thanked 32 Times in 8 Posts	Thanks again, guys! I think you have answered my questions very fully. I'm sure that the magazine I have is, in fact, a replacement of later date, and no great prize. I will keep an eye out for a correct magazine or two, but do not consider it a high priority. I have sufficient good Luger magazines of various types for all practical purposes, and really just want good function, though it would be nice to have at least one 'correct' magazine for each of my Lugers (I have 4, now). In fact, I was shooting my 1918 DWM today - it's all matching with about 75% remaining finish and a very good bore, and very accurate - it also has the best trigger of all my Lugers. I like Lugers! PRD1 - mhb - MIke __________________ Sancho! My armor!

06-03-2019, 09:25 AM	#12
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	mike, I only have one E/154 marked G date mag available: #1434c+ in exc original condition @$200 + $10 S&H. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

06-03-2019, 10:20 AM	#13
PRD1 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: S.E. AZ Posts: 69 Thanks: 18 Thanked 32 Times in 8 Posts	Tom: Thanks. I'll consider it a while... PRD1 - mhb - MIke __________________ Sancho! My armor!