1908 Commercial~

cirelaw · 04-12-2017, 03:12 PM

The last pre-war luger~

wlyon · 04-12-2017, 03:17 PM

Your going to wear these out showing pictures. Cheers Bill

cirelaw · 04-12-2017, 03:40 PM

1908 DWM Military~ note the front of the holster was supposed to be dyed black although to owner only dyed one side!

cirelaw · 04-12-2017, 03:58 PM

Bill I hear your concern~ These are new photographs of the last commercial prewar and first miltary for comparison! Very very important distinction! I have never posted these lugers side by side! Its revelant and educational! I invite you and others to take a more part and post your significant knowlege and relevent luger examples for all to share! Thank You For Your Alway Valuable posts and Critiques! I encourage you and others to post some your favorites also! We are all here to learn, teach and enjoy our luger addition! Eric~

Robert in NC · 04-13-2017, 08:29 AM

I appreciate your posting these, but honestly I don't see any difference except the holster and the magazine bottom. I'm a new guy, could you point out the important differences?

DonVoigt · 04-13-2017, 09:01 AM

There are no big differences, if you could see the markings and numbering- that is where you could see differences.

Robert in NC · 04-13-2017, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

There are no big differences, if you could see the markings and numbering- that is where you could see differences.

Thanks!

cirelaw · 04-13-2017, 09:24 AM

Thank you Don~one has a single commercial proof and the army has three military proofs as shown below, Eric~

sheepherder · 04-13-2017, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw

I have never posted these lugers side by side! Its revelant and educational! I invite you and others to take a more part and post your significant knowlege and relevent luger examples for all to share!...I encourage you and others to post some your favorites also! We are all here to learn, teach and enjoy our luger addition! Eric~

Whoa there, big fella!

I took Bill's post to be a good-natured ribbing of your picture posts! I like your pics and wish you'd do more detailed photo disassembly essays of your little-known Lugers (the Fat Man, for example).

Close-ups of proofs, inspectors stamps, machine tool markings, the inside of the inner workings are especially interesting, of the older rarer Lugers...Did you notice that there are inspection stamps inside the magazine well???

cirelaw · 04-13-2017, 12:27 PM

Every time I take anything apart, because of my stroke, I break or lose a part! Debby Yells At Me! While I'm testing these 2 favorite, I'm posting these 2 Eagles as they are my most sacred and historical~Yes I'm showing off a little! Forgive Me Please!

Lugerdoc · 04-13-2017, 12:44 PM

Eric, According to Kenyon's Lugers at Random, your commerical with the horizonal C/N proofing, would be classified as a M1914 commerical and should be in the 71500 to 73500 serial range. Only about 2,000 of these made. TH

cirelaw · 04-13-2017, 01:24 PM

I checked the serial # Its higher~

George Anderson · 04-13-2017, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugerdoc

Eric, According to Kenyon's Lugers at Random, your commerical with the horizonal C/N proofing, would be classified as a M1914 commerical and should be in the 71500 to 73500 serial range. Only about 2,000 of these made. TH

Tom, 1914 commercials have a stock lug. Eric's pistol is a second proof type 1908 commercial.

Pistol · 04-13-2017, 11:15 PM

Nice. Does it have the private marking inside the magwell, and did it come with an unmarked commmercial mag?

cirelaw · 04-14-2017, 10:42 AM

I was wondering, what is rarer and more valuable or rarer? Commercial or Military?

04-12-2017, 03:12 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	1908 Commercial~ The last pre-war luger~ Attached Thumbnails

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wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,619 Thanks: 3,144 Thanked 2,531 Times in 943 Posts	Your going to wear these out showing pictures. Cheers Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

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cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	1908 DWM Military~ note the front of the holster was supposed to be dyed black although to owner only dyed one side! Attached Thumbnails

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DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,678 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	There are no big differences, if you could see the markings and numbering- that is where you could see differences. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thank you Don~one has a single commercial proof and the army has three military proofs as shown below, Eric~ Attached Thumbnails

04-12-2017, 03:58 PM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Bill I hear your concern~ These are new photographs of the last commercial prewar and first miltary for comparison! Very very important distinction! I have never posted these lugers side by side! Its revelant and educational! I invite you and others to take a more part and post your significant knowlege and relevent luger examples for all to share! Thank You For Your Alway Valuable posts and Critiques! I encourage you and others to post some your favorites also! We are all here to learn, teach and enjoy our luger addition! Eric~

04-13-2017, 08:29 AM	#5
Robert in NC User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: North Carolina Posts: 32 Thanks: 32 Thanked 22 Times in 11 Posts	I appreciate your posting these, but honestly I don't see any difference except the holster and the magazine bottom. I'm a new guy, could you point out the important differences?

04-13-2017, 12:27 PM	#10
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Every time I take anything apart, because of my stroke, I break or lose a part! Debby Yells At Me! While I'm testing these 2 favorite, I'm posting these 2 Eagles as they are my most sacred and historical~Yes I'm showing off a little! Forgive Me Please! Attached Thumbnails

04-13-2017, 12:44 PM	#11
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Eric, According to Kenyon's Lugers at Random, your commerical with the horizonal C/N proofing, would be classified as a M1914 commerical and should be in the 71500 to 73500 serial range. Only about 2,000 of these made. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

04-13-2017, 01:24 PM	#12
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I checked the serial # Its higher~ Attached Thumbnails

04-13-2017, 11:15 PM	#14
Pistol User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 421 Thanks: 432 Thanked 214 Times in 95 Posts	Nice. Does it have the private marking inside the magwell, and did it come with an unmarked commmercial mag?

04-14-2017, 10:42 AM	#15
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	It Is A Unmarked Commercial Magazine~ I was wondering, what is rarer and more valuable or rarer? Commercial or Military? Attached Thumbnails