How/who to reblue a Navy shooter

Jasta2 · 10-16-2009, 06:49 PM

Ok, What I have is a very nice Navy shooter ( I've mentioned before) that a fellow forum member built for me. I would like to have it refinished, but seeing it's a built shooter, I don't think the time and cost involved in getting a old style rust blue would be worth it. Yet I would like to have the Navy refinished, but not have a hack job done on it. With the new barrell and worn blue on the reciever, I think it would look much better all the same finish. Any ideas as to who might do a nice job for me?
Many thanks, Bill

FNorm · 10-16-2009, 06:58 PM

I don't have personal experience, but everyone on this list swears by member Thor.

sheepherder · 10-16-2009, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FNorm

I don't have personal experience, but everyone on this list swears by member Thor.

...But if Thor re-finishes it...Would it still be just a "shooter"???

Tomathvl · 10-16-2009, 09:58 PM

Have a look at this.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=18796

suum cuique · 10-16-2009, 10:51 PM

I'm a littlebit confused. I'm reading always so much at this forum about not reblueing a Luger. Almost everybody is recommending not to reblue a Luger, better staying with the worn, authentic condition.
I thought always to keep this gun as it is.

What is the right decision?

btw, how much is a reblueing approximatly ?

Tomathvl · 10-17-2009, 03:53 AM

The right decision rests with you, whatever you like.
The guns in this thread are made up shooters and are obvious to collectors.
If your gun is all original and matching it still isn't a collector based on your assessment of percentage of remaining blue. Post a photo and you'll get all the opinions you need.
Like I said do what you want but if you refinish get someone that knows what they're doing.
Call Ken and Thor and ask their price if you really want an accurate estimate; it will vary with metal condition. My gun was in good shape so didn't cost a lot.
Tom
Tom

Lugerdoc · 10-17-2009, 09:47 AM

Bill, Thor does restorations, which is what I'd recommend if you had an ULGY all matching Navy. For a put together shooter, you can get an exc reblue from Ken Kasted or Charles Danner for about half of Thor's prices. Any of these would be a superior job to what most local guns are offering as a "reblue". TH

suum cuique · 10-17-2009, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomathvl

The right decision rests with you, whatever you like.
The guns in this thread are made up shooters and are obvious to collectors.
If your gun is all original and matching it still isn't a collector based on your assessment of percentage of remaining blue. Post a photo and you'll get all the opinions you need.
Like I said do what you want but if you refinish get someone that knows what they're doing.
Call Ken and Thor and ask their price if you really want an accurate estimate; it will vary with metal condition. My gun was in good shape so didn't cost a lot.
Tom
Tom

It is not a perfect looking gun but it's a great shooter(for my opinion).
I've sent out the grips to Hugh for restoration.
All matching # except the mag and the rear toggle pin, but I'll receive a correct numbered rear toggle pin (old original spare part) within the next 2 weeks.

Ice · 10-17-2009, 03:55 PM

Andy, where did you find your toggle pin? Are you getting it from CDS? If so, please tell how you managed that.

Thanks

Charlie

suum cuique · 10-17-2009, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice

Andy, where did you find your toggle pin? Are you getting it from CDS? If so, please tell how you managed that.

Thanks

Charlie

Charlie,
yes, CDS.
They ship the pin to a German address.
I've learned if the part(s) are worth more than $100, then an import permit and paperwork is needed. As far I know, for a simple pin worth just a few bucks, an import licence is not required.

Hugh · 10-17-2009, 06:10 PM

I'm working on Andy's grips now, and they are a real challange

suum cuique · 10-17-2009, 08:52 PM

I forgot the markings, the markings are:
Eagle 63, eagle 63, eagle.

suum cuique · 10-21-2009, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh

I'm working on Andy's grips now, and they are a real challange

I received the grips today by mail. The recheckering and restoration is outstanding! Excellent craftmenship. They really look great now!

Thank you so much!

RichSr · 10-21-2009, 09:47 PM

Are you dining out on your grips or did you mean "restoration"

cma22inc · 10-22-2009, 10:59 AM

Pics please!
Want to see Hugh's handy work!

suum cuique · 10-22-2009, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichSr

Are you dining out on your grips or did you mean "restoration"

Rich,
maybe this answers your question:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAj1c...eature=related

RichSr · 10-22-2009, 09:22 PM

A cute video that has been around . Still amusing. Glad to see the change in #14 but you missed it in #8. Keep plugging away

suum cuique · 10-23-2009, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cma22inc

Pics please!
Want to see Hugh's handy work!

The original checkering was almost gone and two pieces of wood were chiped off, too.
The result is great! I didn't put the restored grips back on the gun, yet. I'll safe them and use aftermarket grips instead.

Ice · 10-24-2009, 05:56 AM

Hugh does absolutely amazing work. The restoration looks perfect.

Charlie

Hawkeye · 12-05-2009, 06:03 PM

I'm new here and i wish i had found this Forum long ago , because this place has a Man who knows Luger's. The trouble i have seen in taking a Luger to a Gunsmith who doesn't know a lot about them is , the end result of a Blue job is Red colored and not Blue.
I own Five Luger's , two of which i bought dirt cheap, and the Metal in them was in immaculate original condition .
Except the previous owners took them to a place to have them refinished, and they got back a Wine colored to bright red and orange, almost 1960s Hippy's looking pistol.

I stripped one of them down , to white metal because i couldn't stand to see it suffering any longer like that.
I used a cold blue on them then because they now were only good as shooters ,and the one from Brownell's worked great ,and it was an even color and not miss matching everywhere.
Except it wears off easily like any cold blue will , but i sprayed a light coat of Dura Coat Clear on them then used 0000 steel wool to remove the sheen ,and they look good and the finish doesn't wear off.
Except this is not a Blue Job by any Means ,but its far better than the Psychedelic nightmare they once were .
So i will need to be talking to this Thor Fellow now !
They are both Mauser's , One is a 1936 and the other one ,the nicest one is a 1940.

10-16-2009, 10:51 PM	#5
suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 100 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	I'm a littlebit confused. I'm reading always so much at this forum about not reblueing a Luger. Almost everybody is recommending not to reblue a Luger, better staying with the worn, authentic condition. I thought always to keep this gun as it is. What is the right decision? btw, how much is a reblueing approximatly ? __________________ Regards, Andy There's No Place Like Home (Wizard Of Oz)

10-17-2009, 09:47 AM	#7
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Bill, Thor does restorations, which is what I'd recommend if you had an ULGY all matching Navy. For a put together shooter, you can get an exc reblue from Ken Kasted or Charles Danner for about half of Thor's prices. Any of these would be a superior job to what most local guns are offering as a "reblue". TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

10-17-2009, 06:10 PM	#11
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	I'm working on Andy's grips now, and they are a real challange __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

10-17-2009, 08:52 PM	#12
suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 100 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	I forgot the markings, the markings are: Eagle 63, eagle 63, eagle. __________________ Regards, Andy There's No Place Like Home (Wizard Of Oz)

10-22-2009, 10:59 AM	#15
cma22inc User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tampa Bay FL Posts: 93 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Pics please! Want to see Hugh's handy work! __________________ Matt A. Tampa, FL (C&R) Collector

10-16-2009, 06:49 PM	#1
Jasta2 User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lakeland, Fl. Posts: 514 Thanks: 349 Thanked 101 Times in 52 Posts	How/who to reblue a Navy shooter Ok, What I have is a very nice Navy shooter ( I've mentioned before) that a fellow forum member built for me. I would like to have it refinished, but seeing it's a built shooter, I don't think the time and cost involved in getting a old style rust blue would be worth it. Yet I would like to have the Navy refinished, but not have a hack job done on it. With the new barrell and worn blue on the reciever, I think it would look much better all the same finish. Any ideas as to who might do a nice job for me? Many thanks, Bill Attached Thumbnails

10-16-2009, 06:58 PM	#2
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	I don't have personal experience, but everyone on this list swears by member Thor.

10-16-2009, 09:58 PM	#4
Tomathvl User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Milan, IN Posts: 363 Thanks: 3 Thanked 48 Times in 19 Posts	Have a look at this. http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=18796

10-17-2009, 03:53 AM	#6
Tomathvl User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Milan, IN Posts: 363 Thanks: 3 Thanked 48 Times in 19 Posts	The right decision rests with you, whatever you like. The guns in this thread are made up shooters and are obvious to collectors. If your gun is all original and matching it still isn't a collector based on your assessment of percentage of remaining blue. Post a photo and you'll get all the opinions you need. Like I said do what you want but if you refinish get someone that knows what they're doing. Call Ken and Thor and ask their price if you really want an accurate estimate; it will vary with metal condition. My gun was in good shape so didn't cost a lot. Tom Tom

10-17-2009, 03:55 PM	#9
Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	Andy, where did you find your toggle pin? Are you getting it from CDS? If so, please tell how you managed that. Thanks Charlie

10-21-2009, 09:47 PM	#14
RichSr User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Texas Posts: 127 Thanks: 153 Thanked 51 Times in 35 Posts	Are you dining out on your grips or did you mean "restoration" __________________ Rich

10-22-2009, 09:22 PM	#17
RichSr User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Texas Posts: 127 Thanks: 153 Thanked 51 Times in 35 Posts	A cute video that has been around . Still amusing. Glad to see the change in #14 but you missed it in #8. Keep plugging away __________________ Rich

10-24-2009, 05:56 AM	#19
Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	Hugh does absolutely amazing work. The restoration looks perfect. Charlie

12-05-2009, 06:03 PM	#20
Hawkeye User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm new here and i wish i had found this Forum long ago , because this place has a Man who knows Luger's. The trouble i have seen in taking a Luger to a Gunsmith who doesn't know a lot about them is , the end result of a Blue job is Red colored and not Blue. I own Five Luger's , two of which i bought dirt cheap, and the Metal in them was in immaculate original condition . Except the previous owners took them to a place to have them refinished, and they got back a Wine colored to bright red and orange, almost 1960s Hippy's looking pistol. I stripped one of them down , to white metal because i couldn't stand to see it suffering any longer like that. I used a cold blue on them then because they now were only good as shooters ,and the one from Brownell's worked great ,and it was an even color and not miss matching everywhere. Except it wears off easily like any cold blue will , but i sprayed a light coat of Dura Coat Clear on them then used 0000 steel wool to remove the sheen ,and they look good and the finish doesn't wear off. Except this is not a Blue Job by any Means ,but its far better than the Psychedelic nightmare they once were . So i will need to be talking to this Thor Fellow now ! They are both Mauser's , One is a 1936 and the other one ,the nicest one is a 1940.