Odd barrel

tommycrook · 06-06-2014, 06:08 PM

I have an 1917 DWM luger that has a barrel that is milled flat for about 1 and a half inches from the receiver. it has a mark that looks like a 2 out front and back towards the receiver it has a U with a +45 and a round dent underneath. I haven't seen this in any pictures anywhere. Also it looks like it had an artillery rear toggle that had a sight welded on top. Anyone know what I have?

DavidJayUden · 06-06-2014, 06:59 PM

No, and without photos, we never will...
dju

ithacaartist · 06-07-2014, 09:26 AM

Photos, yes! But so far, my guess would be an artillery with its barrel chopped off, perhaps the barrel band re-created, and a rear sight to make up for the loss of the original on the barrel. Pics!

sheepherder · 06-07-2014, 08:52 PM

Yes, pictures are a must. We have seen some strange barrels here lately, and I for one find them all interesting!

tommycrook · 06-12-2014, 05:57 PM

I put the pictures in an album here somewhere. I dont know where they went. Im new to this sight.

sheepherder · 06-12-2014, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommycrook

I put the pictures in an album here somewhere. I dont know where they went. Im new to this sight.

They're in here -

http://forum.lugerforum.com/album.php?albumid=560

But I'll link them, because I can't tell what they are either...

Is this first pic the toggle-mounted rear sight???

This one looks like an artillery barrel that has been rounded off to eliminate the large dovetail base for the tangent rear sight...

And what little shows of the receiver/barrel extension is heavily buffed...Way heavy...

And here is what it looked like before 'bubba' ground the snot out of it...

John Sabato · 06-13-2014, 06:44 AM

The original poster's top photo looks to me like part of a military rifle (Mauser?) rifle rear sight that has been ground/filed to fit the Luger Toggle and silver soldered on in an attempt to lengthen the sight radius ... Crude but functional.

alanint · 06-13-2014, 07:14 AM

Yes, clearly a rifle rear sight ramp. See the rachet teeth on the right side of the rear sight.

tommycrook · 06-14-2014, 11:23 PM

THANK GUYS I wondered if that was the case. The stamped 2 and the t45 looked like arsenal marks. I have replaced the rear toggle and ground the sight off the old one out of curiousity. It had a tapped hole and notch underneath. He welded the toggles back. Im still grinding the slope back in hopeing to hit original metal. I think it may of been an artillery toggle.And as a side note the barrel looks freshly relined, like new bore. Great shooter, runs my loads flawlessly.

06-06-2014, 06:08 PM	#1
tommycrook New User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Odd barrel I have an 1917 DWM luger that has a barrel that is milled flat for about 1 and a half inches from the receiver. it has a mark that looks like a 2 out front and back towards the receiver it has a U with a +45 and a round dent underneath. I haven't seen this in any pictures anywhere. Also it looks like it had an artillery rear toggle that had a sight welded on top. Anyone know what I have?

06-07-2014, 09:26 AM	#3
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,288 Thanks: 7,032 Thanked 2,482 Times in 1,323 Posts	Photos, yes! But so far, my *guess* would be an artillery with its barrel chopped off, perhaps the barrel band re-created, and a rear sight to make up for the loss of the original on the barrel. Pics! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

06-07-2014, 08:52 PM	#4
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,440 Times in 2,328 Posts	Yes, pictures are a must. We have seen some strange barrels here lately, and I for one find them all interesting! __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

06-12-2014, 05:57 PM	#5
tommycrook New User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	barrel I put the pictures in an album here somewhere. I dont know where they went. Im new to this sight.

06-13-2014, 06:44 AM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	The original poster's top photo looks to me like part of a military rifle (Mauser?) rifle rear sight that has been ground/filed to fit the Luger Toggle and silver soldered on in an attempt to lengthen the sight radius ... Crude but functional. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-06-2014, 06:59 PM	#2
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	No, and without photos, we never will... dju

06-13-2014, 07:14 AM	#8
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Yes, clearly a rifle rear sight ramp. See the rachet teeth on the right side of the rear sight.

06-14-2014, 11:23 PM	#9
tommycrook New User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	THANK GUYS I wondered if that was the case. The stamped 2 and the t45 looked like arsenal marks. I have replaced the rear toggle and ground the sight off the old one out of curiousity. It had a tapped hole and notch underneath. He welded the toggles back. Im still grinding the slope back in hopeing to hit original metal. I think it may of been an artillery toggle.And as a side note the barrel looks freshly relined, like new bore. Great shooter, runs my loads flawlessly.