Gunbroker American Eagle

RobRod · 05-28-2005, 02:19 PM

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=32554170

I'm very new to luger collecting (This will be my second after a 1920 commerical I got at a gun show) and I was wondering if anyone could see a reason that I shouldn't place a bid on this gun. Right now it seems like an amazing deal, but I feel like I could be missing something. I'm looking for a luger with a bit more collectible value than my commercial and this looks like it would be a good way to start my collection. Any thoughts?

policeluger · 05-28-2005, 02:37 PM

His sale/over the counter price is his selling price at $2,750.00 a bit over priced. Please look around before putting out big bucks.....if you need more help, please ask.

Tomathvl · 05-28-2005, 04:01 PM

RobRod,
You want to be careful if you do business with this dealer. He has not stood behind his wares and honored his statements. I would recommend that you look elsewhere.
Tom

RobRod · 05-28-2005, 04:43 PM

Thanks for the advice, I'll keep looking.

Heinz · 05-28-2005, 07:03 PM

Rob, a few hints. The dents on the left grip panel are inconsistent with the condition of the grips, they may have been recheckered but you cannot really tell from the pictures. Recheckered grips would be a strong indicator this gun should be showing mare wear than it is. Also the wear on the bluing shown in the picture of the canon where the eagle shows is a little too uniform. That is consistent with a reblue that has been aged back to look honest. The upper part of the eagle looks to me to have been buffed down a bit but again it is difficult to tell from these pictures.

Try Simpsom Ltd who is not reported to be cheap but does have a reputation for honesty: http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php

DougT · 05-29-2005, 04:55 AM

RobRod,

From what I've read about this dealer on the Lugerforum over the last few months, I would stay as far away from him as I could. In addition to Simpson, Ralph Shattuck (World of Lugers) is also known for his honest reputation and is certainly recognized as one of the icons in the Luger community. If I remember correctly, he charges a one time fee of $6.00 to become a "member" and view his website. Some other Lugerforum members have balked at this minimal fee, but I think it's worth it. Ralph is also a very interesting and enjoyable fellow to talk with on the phone--don't hesitate to call him up and talk Lugers. Enjoy!

DougT

Pete Ebbink · 05-29-2005, 12:41 PM

I do not think WOL has put out a new List for nearly two years. And never had photos on their web site. Not sure what the $ 6 would buy one, now-days.

More than one LF member had reported very unsatisfactory dealings with PIA/Jagerbrief. The other dealers (such as Simpsons LTD, Joe Salter, and FGS) that use very clear and very detailed photos on their web sites with a no-questions-asked, 3 day return policy are the only way to go if one wants to buy through a dealer and pay the mark-ups.

thegundude · 05-30-2005, 12:02 AM

Still, it's tough to pay $2,500 + for a gun that isn't even full auto....

Brent B. · 06-02-2005, 01:44 PM

RobRod: I saw your post a while back and just saw a 1906 American Eagle on GunBroker, item #32718582, priced at $1,250 with no reserve. You might want to take a look at it and see what the folks here on the forum think of it. I have nothing to do with the sale of this pistol but thought it might be something you'd want to check out. Brent B.

Pete Ebbink · 06-02-2005, 06:53 PM

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?item=32718582

05-28-2005, 02:19 PM	#1
RobRod New User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Gunbroker American Eagle http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=32554170 I'm very new to luger collecting (This will be my second after a 1920 commerical I got at a gun show) and I was wondering if anyone could see a reason that I shouldn't place a bid on this gun. Right now it seems like an amazing deal, but I feel like I could be missing something. I'm looking for a luger with a bit more collectible value than my commercial and this looks like it would be a good way to start my collection. Any thoughts?

05-30-2005, 12:02 AM	#8
thegundude User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NC Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts	Still, it's tough to pay $2,500 + for a gun that isn't even full auto.... __________________ Keep your knees in the breeze and your iron in the air. ~Steve

05-28-2005, 02:37 PM	#2
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	His sale/over the counter price is his selling price at $2,750.00 a bit over priced. Please look around before putting out big bucks.....if you need more help, please ask.

05-28-2005, 04:01 PM	#3
Tomathvl User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Milan, IN Posts: 363 Thanks: 3 Thanked 48 Times in 19 Posts	RobRod, You want to be careful if you do business with this dealer. He has not stood behind his wares and honored his statements. I would recommend that you look elsewhere. Tom

05-28-2005, 04:43 PM	#4
RobRod New User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the advice, I'll keep looking.

05-28-2005, 07:03 PM	#5
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 410 Times in 180 Posts	Rob, a few hints. The dents on the left grip panel are inconsistent with the condition of the grips, they may have been recheckered but you cannot really tell from the pictures. Recheckered grips would be a strong indicator this gun should be showing mare wear than it is. Also the wear on the bluing shown in the picture of the canon where the eagle shows is a little too uniform. That is consistent with a reblue that has been aged back to look honest. The upper part of the eagle looks to me to have been buffed down a bit but again it is difficult to tell from these pictures. Try Simpsom Ltd who is not reported to be cheap but does have a reputation for honesty: http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php

05-29-2005, 04:55 AM	#6
DougT User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 171 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	RobRod, From what I've read about this dealer on the Lugerforum over the last few months, I would stay as far away from him as I could. In addition to Simpson, Ralph Shattuck (World of Lugers) is also known for his honest reputation and is certainly recognized as one of the icons in the Luger community. If I remember correctly, he charges a one time fee of $6.00 to become a "member" and view his website. Some other Lugerforum members have balked at this minimal fee, but I think it's worth it. Ralph is also a very interesting and enjoyable fellow to talk with on the phone--don't hesitate to call him up and talk Lugers. Enjoy! DougT

05-29-2005, 12:41 PM	#7
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	I do not think WOL has put out a new List for nearly two years. And never had photos on their web site. Not sure what the $ 6 would buy one, now-days. More than one LF member had reported very unsatisfactory dealings with PIA/Jagerbrief. The other dealers (such as Simpsons LTD, Joe Salter, and FGS) that use very clear and very detailed photos on their web sites with a no-questions-asked, 3 day return policy are the only way to go if one wants to buy through a dealer and pay the mark-ups.

06-02-2005, 01:44 PM	#9
Brent B. User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 176 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	RobRod: I saw your post a while back and just saw a 1906 American Eagle on GunBroker, item #32718582, priced at $1,250 with no reserve. You might want to take a look at it and see what the folks here on the forum think of it. I have nothing to do with the sale of this pistol but thought it might be something you'd want to check out. Brent B.

06-02-2005, 06:53 PM	#10
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?item=32718582