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mskirv · 11-14-2002, 02:34 AM

oops. tried again, I'm not doing something right. I DO have 5 photos on my desktop if someone can tell me how to make it so you can see them. I thought I uploaded them per the instructions.. but anyway I guess not. [img]frown.gif[/img]

mskirv · 11-14-2002, 03:01 AM

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/gun1.pdf
http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/gun2.pdf
http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/gun3.pdf
http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/gun4.pdf

mskirv · 11-14-2002, 03:52 AM

Whew! I can hardly believe I really did all that. It took several tries, I had the photos in the wrong format was the problem I think. Anyway, sorry the pictures aren't very revealing, the light was glaring and for some reason the camera cut off the top of some of the pics [img]rolleyes.gif[/img] but now that I've graduated "Uploading 101" <img src="graemlins/r.gif" border="0" alt="[king]" /> I can possibly try again if I haven't lost my audience by now... In photo #4 you can see the shiny area behind the thumb safety in the locked position.

Dwight Gruber · 11-14-2002, 09:39 AM

You certainly have not lost your audience. Its a good start, the pictures are very compressed, but it appears that you have a really nice Luger. And thats quite a manicure, too [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

--Dwight

John Sabato · 11-14-2002, 10:08 AM

Please do try again with the camera... It is not a problem for the website for you to continue to try and I doubt that you have lost your audience.

after all, Interesting Lugers is what this forum is all about.

Thor · 11-14-2002, 11:35 AM

We are still watching and reading!!

policeluger · 11-14-2002, 02:55 PM

That is a great Luger, are you married?

Imperial Arms · 11-14-2002, 04:11 PM

Hey Policeluger,

Are you proposing to her in order to get your hands on that Luger! [img]smile.gif[/img] I believe that I see a ring on her left hand! By the way, The Luger Forum expects its members to behave themselves properly and not to flirt with women otherwise they could be shot (with a Luger) !! [img]biggrin.gif[/img] If are you are not execute by the 'General', you can rest assured that she will scratch out your eyes with those 'claws'!

Albert

John Sabato · 11-14-2002, 04:18 PM

Let's keep it ON-TOPIC please... <img src="graemlins/icon501.gif" border="0" alt="[icon501]" />

policeluger · 11-14-2002, 06:34 PM

You are right Albert, I should have taken a closer look at the pictures, there just ain't a sear safety on that gun at all.

Hugh · 11-14-2002, 07:51 PM

Hey John S.;

Why can't I open the pictures? All I get is a new window with a little red & blue square in the upper left corner! I am running Windows XP and IE6 and have Acrobat Reader 5. <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" />

Johnny Peppers · 11-14-2002, 10:13 PM

Hugh,
I think they are in pdf instead of jpg. They won't open for me like a .jpg, but go to my download manager and open.

mskirv · 11-15-2002, 04:19 AM

Sorry, no new pictures tonight. It's quite a gyration I have to go thru to get them as I'm not equipped with the dig. camera or software for uploading the photos, but my mother (wierd huh) is helping me. She then emails me the photos so I can download then upload. (Gee, I almost SOUND sorta smart <img src="graemlins/oops.gif" border="0" alt="[oops]" /> ) But I am amused by all your funny comments and I am eager to learn more about my (our) gun. Yes, I am very happily married, and the gun belonged to my father-in-law, and is intended for my son one day.

mskirv · 11-15-2002, 04:25 AM

BTW- what is a sear safety? and why don't I have one?

John Sabato · 11-15-2002, 10:48 AM

Hugh,

The photos posted by Melissa are in fact in PDF document format which is not a graphics format, but can contain photographs and images, and they require that you have the Adobe Acrobat Reader installed. You can download this reader program for free from Adobe.com

If you have any trouble after loading this program, give me an email...

Dwight Gruber · 11-15-2002, 11:36 AM

[quote]Originally posted by mskirv:
<strong>BTW- what is a sear safety? and why don't I have one?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Melissa, the sear safety is a small, bent piece of steel riveted over the top of the side plate on the left side of the gun. In the photos above the upper Luger has a sear safety, the lower one does not.

The sear safety was added to Lugers when they were pressed into service by German civilian Police organizations beginning in the Weimar Republic period between the two World Wars; it is one defining characteristic of those pistols.

I don't know if you have gone so far as to attempt to disassemble your Luger. When you do so, you -MUST- make sure that it is unloaded, that there is no cartrige in the chamber. It is a characteristic of Lugers that they can be fired when the cannon--the upper barrel/receiver/toggle assembly--is removed from the frame. The sear safety was added to prevent this occurrance.

Your Luger does not have one because it was never used as a German police weapon.

--Dwight

policeluger · 11-15-2002, 12:13 PM

Sorry Mskirv, without a sear safety, as explained above, this whole thing would just not work out. My wife of 29 years would not understand me leaving for a non-police Luger, but then on the other hand she doesn't understand Lugers. What a great treasure for you son.

mskirv · 11-15-2002, 05:18 PM

Interesting Info about the sear safety. I don't think I'm up for any attempt at disassemby! I can barely open the toggle assembly or get it to close once I have opened it. I have figured out that the only way to close it is to take out the magazine first- is that normal? Also I'm guessing you gentlemen would classify my gun as a "collector" as opposed to a "shooter"? Dad kept it loaded at his bedside until now as self-protection but said he hadn't actually fired it for 15 or 20 years. But he would still take it out and lovingly admire it and clean it and show it off to visitors for the sake of conversation. The box of shells he included look to be at least 30 years old.. (to me at least).

policeluger · 11-15-2002, 05:56 PM

Guns as yours pass the shooter stage. Shooters may range upward in value to your gun, but should a part break in firing, the owner may feel that the experance of firing the gun was worth it. Most of here, I think, may have one lesser condition gun which we fire and should a part break, or some other damage occure we could live with it. You gun goes far behond shooter grade and it is a real collector piece, not worth the risk of shooting, but a family treasure to be passed down. I only shoot the one luger of mine every few years, as for the rest they are of too great a replacemnet value, and a investment to risk....hope this helps

11-14-2002, 10:08 AM	#25
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Please do try again with the camera... It is not a problem for the website for you to continue to try and I doubt that you have lost your audience. after all, Interesting Lugers is what this forum is all about. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-14-2002, 11:35 AM	#26
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	We are still watching and reading!! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

11-14-2002, 04:18 PM	#29
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Let's keep it ON-TOPIC please... <img src="graemlins/icon501.gif" border="0" alt="[icon501]" /> __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-14-2002, 07:51 PM	#31
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Hey John S.; Why can't I open the pictures? All I get is a new window with a little red & blue square in the upper left corner! I am running Windows XP and IE6 and have Acrobat Reader 5. <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" /> __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

11-15-2002, 10:48 AM	#35
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Hugh, The photos posted by Melissa are in fact in PDF document format which is not a graphics format, but can contain photographs and images, and they require that you have the Adobe Acrobat Reader installed. You can download this reader program for free from Adobe.com If you have any trouble after loading this program, give me an email... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-14-2002, 02:34 AM	#21
mskirv User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	oops. tried again, I'm not doing something right. I DO have 5 photos on my desktop if someone can tell me how to make it so you can see them. I thought I uploaded them per the instructions.. but anyway I guess not. [img]frown.gif[/img]

11-14-2002, 03:01 AM	#22
mskirv User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/gun1.pdf http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/gun2.pdf http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/gun3.pdf http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/gun4.pdf

11-14-2002, 03:52 AM	#23
mskirv User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Whew! I can hardly believe I really did all that. It took several tries, I had the photos in the wrong format was the problem I think. Anyway, sorry the pictures aren't very revealing, the light was glaring and for some reason the camera cut off the top of some of the pics [img]rolleyes.gif[/img] but now that I've graduated "Uploading 101" <img src="graemlins/r.gif" border="0" alt="[king]" /> I can possibly try again if I haven't lost my audience by now... In photo #4 you can see the shiny area behind the thumb safety in the locked position.

11-14-2002, 09:39 AM	#24
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	You certainly have not lost your audience. Its a good start, the pictures are very compressed, but it appears that you have a really nice Luger. And thats quite a manicure, too [img]biggrin.gif[/img] --Dwight

11-14-2002, 02:55 PM	#27
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	That is a great Luger, are you married?

11-14-2002, 04:11 PM	#28
Imperial Arms Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Malta, EU Posts: 579 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Hey Policeluger, Are you proposing to her in order to get your hands on that Luger! [img]smile.gif[/img] I believe that I see a ring on her left hand! By the way, The Luger Forum expects its members to behave themselves properly and not to flirt with women otherwise they could be shot (with a Luger) !! [img]biggrin.gif[/img] If are you are not execute by the 'General', you can rest assured that she will scratch out your eyes with those 'claws'! Albert

11-14-2002, 06:34 PM	#30
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	You are right Albert, I should have taken a closer look at the pictures, there just ain't a sear safety on that gun at all.

11-14-2002, 10:13 PM	#32
Johnny Peppers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calion, Arkansas Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hugh, I think they are in pdf instead of jpg. They won't open for me like a .jpg, but go to my download manager and open.

11-15-2002, 04:19 AM	#33
mskirv User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sorry, no new pictures tonight. It's quite a gyration I have to go thru to get them as I'm not equipped with the dig. camera or software for uploading the photos, but my mother (wierd huh) is helping me. She then emails me the photos so I can download then upload. (Gee, I almost SOUND sorta smart <img src="graemlins/oops.gif" border="0" alt="[oops]" /> ) But I am amused by all your funny comments and I am eager to learn more about my (our) gun. Yes, I am very happily married, and the gun belonged to my father-in-law, and is intended for my son one day.

11-15-2002, 04:25 AM	#34
mskirv User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	BTW- what is a sear safety? and why don't I have one?

11-15-2002, 11:36 AM	#36
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by mskirv: <strong>BTW- what is a sear safety? and why don't I have one?</strong><hr></blockquote> Melissa, the sear safety is a small, bent piece of steel riveted over the top of the side plate on the left side of the gun. In the photos above the upper Luger has a sear safety, the lower one does not. The sear safety was added to Lugers when they were pressed into service by German civilian Police organizations beginning in the Weimar Republic period between the two World Wars; it is one defining characteristic of those pistols. I don't know if you have gone so far as to attempt to disassemble your Luger. When you do so, you -MUST- make sure that it is unloaded, that there is no cartrige in the chamber. It is a characteristic of Lugers that they can be fired when the cannon--the upper barrel/receiver/toggle assembly--is removed from the frame. The sear safety was added to prevent this occurrance. Your Luger does not have one because it was never used as a German police weapon. --Dwight

11-15-2002, 12:13 PM	#37
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Sorry Mskirv, without a sear safety, as explained above, this whole thing would just not work out. My wife of 29 years would not understand me leaving for a non-police Luger, but then on the other hand she doesn't understand Lugers. What a great treasure for you son.

11-15-2002, 05:18 PM	#38
mskirv User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Interesting Info about the sear safety. I don't think I'm up for any attempt at disassemby! I can barely open the toggle assembly or get it to close once I have opened it. I have figured out that the only way to close it is to take out the magazine first- is that normal? Also I'm guessing you gentlemen would classify my gun as a "collector" as opposed to a "shooter"? Dad kept it loaded at his bedside until now as self-protection but said he hadn't actually fired it for 15 or 20 years. But he would still take it out and lovingly admire it and clean it and show it off to visitors for the sake of conversation. The box of shells he included look to be at least 30 years old.. (to me at least).

11-15-2002, 05:56 PM	#39
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Guns as yours pass the shooter stage. Shooters may range upward in value to your gun, but should a part break in firing, the owner may feel that the experance of firing the gun was worth it. Most of here, I think, may have one lesser condition gun which we fire and should a part break, or some other damage occure we could live with it. You gun goes far behond shooter grade and it is a real collector piece, not worth the risk of shooting, but a family treasure to be passed down. I only shoot the one luger of mine every few years, as for the rest they are of too great a replacemnet value, and a investment to risk....hope this helps