My first Borchardt, - Page 3

Lugers down under · 01-07-2005, 02:36 AM

Here is the latest photo with the addition of the spare mag, oil bottle and pin punches.

John Sabato · 01-07-2005, 10:56 AM

EXCELLENT Murray ! I hope to visit your collection one day!

thegundude · 01-31-2005, 04:31 PM

Now THAT is COOL!!!

Congrats on the new acquisition. If it's not too out of line, what does something like that "drool piece" cost? I've seen them in the various Luger books, but never with an associated cost.

If it's am improper question, please just ignore me.... I'm a newbie....

Vlim · 02-01-2005, 03:52 PM

Hi,

It seems that Loewe has been in use with the 'oe' from the beginning. Ludwig Loewe, of Jewish origin, pioneered German engineering and standardization processes in those early engineering dates. He is the founder of what came to be known as the 'DIN' (Deutsches Institut fur Normalisierung) or the German standards office.

He took of the Karlsruhe-based ammunitions factory of Lorenz, which later formed part of DWM, turned into BKIW, back into DWM and later into IWK. (the company still exists, as IWKA (Industriewerke Karlsruhe Augsburg).

Sadly his expoits are played down in the 1939 DWM company history, as his Jewish origins were not exactly appreciated in those days.

German collector Patrick Villiers has done extensive research on Loewe's exploits and I suggest you contact him for more background information on the man Loewe and the company Loewe (still a household name in Europe for electronics goods).

This is an advert dating from 1913 which illustrates the name Loewe in use with the 'oe' spelling. It also illustrates that in 1913, Loewe still had a good grasp on DWM, somthing which was ignored in official records later on.

Lugers down under · 02-02-2005, 02:11 AM

Your answer and photo (advert) of the factory are just so interesting.
I really appreciate the effort you have taken to research the early history for me of this wounderful gun andit's maker.
Many thanks
Murray
Lugers Down Under.

01-07-2005, 02:36 AM	#41
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Here is the latest photo with the addition of the spare mag, oil bottle and pin punches. __________________ Lugers down under

01-07-2005, 10:56 AM	#42
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	EXCELLENT Murray ! I hope to visit your collection one day! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

01-31-2005, 04:31 PM	#43
thegundude User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NC Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts	Now THAT is COOL!!! Congrats on the new acquisition. If it's not too out of line, what does something like that "drool piece" cost? I've seen them in the various Luger books, but never with an associated cost. If it's am improper question, please just ignore me.... I'm a newbie.... __________________ Keep your knees in the breeze and your iron in the air. ~Steve

02-02-2005, 02:11 AM	#45
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Your answer and photo (advert) of the factory are just so interesting. I really appreciate the effort you have taken to research the early history for me of this wounderful gun andit's maker. Many thanks Murray Lugers Down Under. __________________ Lugers down under

02-01-2005, 03:52 PM	#44
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	Hi, It seems that Loewe has been in use with the 'oe' from the beginning. Ludwig Loewe, of Jewish origin, pioneered German engineering and standardization processes in those early engineering dates. He is the founder of what came to be known as the 'DIN' (Deutsches Institut fur Normalisierung) or the German standards office. He took of the Karlsruhe-based ammunitions factory of Lorenz, which later formed part of DWM, turned into BKIW, back into DWM and later into IWK. (the company still exists, as IWKA (Industriewerke Karlsruhe Augsburg). Sadly his expoits are played down in the 1939 DWM company history, as his Jewish origins were not exactly appreciated in those days. German collector Patrick Villiers has done extensive research on Loewe's exploits and I suggest you contact him for more background information on the man Loewe and the company Loewe (still a household name in Europe for electronics goods). This is an advert dating from 1913 which illustrates the name Loewe in use with the 'oe' spelling. It also illustrates that in 1913, Loewe still had a good grasp on DWM, somthing which was ignored in official records later on.