Top 10 KÃ?Â¼ Theories - Page 3

Edward Tinker · 03-05-2005, 11:29 PM

point taken.

ed

John D. · 03-05-2005, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Edward Tinker
point taken.....

Which point - I made so many!!!

Heh..!

Best to you Ed!!!

John D.

Edward Tinker · 03-05-2005, 11:49 PM

RS said you need to fly out to Reno

You, Dwight, Ron, you're just too damn smart for me to keep up

(okay, at times, but that is cuz I'm lazy as hell)

Eddie

tau-delt · 03-21-2005, 03:12 PM

Some of you may have seen this holster in Auto Mag or on Jan's forum but thought I would post again just in case it might add a clue to someone. The maker looks like dtv and the acceptance is WaA279. A 41 BYF #1622Ku came in it. dave

tau-delt · 03-21-2005, 03:14 PM

larger view

Vlim · 04-17-2005, 11:30 AM

Hi,

dtv translates as C. Otto Gehrckens, Leder- u. Riemenwerke, Pinneberg

Interestingly enough, Pinneberg lies centrally between the two German main ports of Bremen and Kiel.

In the meantime, I discovered another problem with the KÃ?Â¼stenfliegergruppe designation of KÃ?Â¼. It appears that in the time the guns were being produced (we agree upon the 1941-1945 timeframe), most if not all KÃ?Â¼stenfliegergruppen were renamed or disbanded.

KÃ?Â¼strin, btw, shows no sign of being a Luftwaffe depot area, as John D. pointed out. It has a small artillery garrison, primarily because it was a border town at the Oder, near Poland. Putting a part of the luftwaffe supply chain in KÃ?Â¼strin would be foolish, even for Adolf's idiots.

The town was split up after the war and the town centre was never rebuilt. Part of the town became Polish property (Kostrzyn nad Odr) and only a small part became a German village, in DDR land.

The town was fought over pretty fiercely in 1945 and almost completely destroyed.

Russ · 09-05-2005, 12:32 PM

I just got this one

Edward Tinker · 09-05-2005, 12:56 PM

Nice Russ,

I still have room in my safe

ed

drbuster · 09-05-2005, 12:57 PM

Thanks for posting this picture, Russ. I think you told me about this acquisition at Reno. Could you post more views?

John D. · 09-05-2005, 06:27 PM

Very nice!!!! Like Doc - I'd like to see more, too...

John D.

tenbears · 04-29-2006, 01:01 PM

I spoke to a long time Luger collector who told me that while he was in Germany. He came across a article about KU's in the magazine German Weapon Journal. Since his German wasnt to good he could not understand most of it. This magazine is still being published. I wonder if someone could contact the editor for more info.

waltherguy · 07-07-2006, 10:20 PM

Well, Just so happened I was finding myself fascinated by the KU Lugers, when my friend mentioned he has one that if memory served him, has a KU after the serial number. He Brought over the gun, and I had to snap pics. What made me scratch my head was, the "Black widow" grips/mag? Very possible this was done post war, but has anyone ever encountered a KU with these grips/mag?

Edward Tinker · 07-07-2006, 10:26 PM

According to Krieghoff Lugers (Gibson), he talked about the theory of KU's being associated with Kreighoff's (he did not beleive it), and he states wood or black plastic are found on KU's, just wood is more common.

Ed

waltherguy · 07-07-2006, 10:30 PM

Very Cool, Good to know! Thanks Ed.

03-05-2005, 11:29 PM	#41
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	point taken. ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-21-2005, 03:12 PM	#44
tau-delt User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 105 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Ku Holster Some of you may have seen this holster in Auto Mag or on Jan's forum but thought I would post again just in case it might add a clue to someone. The maker looks like dtv and the acceptance is WaA279. A 41 BYF #1622Ku came in it. dave Attached Thumbnails

03-21-2005, 03:14 PM	#45
tau-delt User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 105 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	larger view Attached Thumbnails

09-05-2005, 12:32 PM	#47
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	new Ku I just got this one __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!

07-07-2006, 10:20 PM	#52
waltherguy User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: FL Posts: 201 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, Just so happened I was finding myself fascinated by the KU Lugers, when my friend mentioned he has one that if memory served him, has a KU after the serial number. He Brought over the gun, and I had to snap pics. What made me scratch my head was, the "Black widow" grips/mag? Very possible this was done post war, but has anyone ever encountered a KU with these grips/mag? __________________ "In a man to man fight the winner is the one who puts an extra round in his magazine" -Field Marshal Erwin Rommel

03-05-2005, 11:49 PM	#43
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	RS said you need to fly out to Reno You, Dwight, Ron, you're just too damn smart for me to keep up (okay, at times, but that is cuz I'm lazy as hell) Eddie

04-17-2005, 11:30 AM	#46
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	Hi, dtv translates as C. Otto Gehrckens, Leder- u. Riemenwerke, Pinneberg Interestingly enough, Pinneberg lies centrally between the two German main ports of Bremen and Kiel. In the meantime, I discovered another problem with the KÃ?Â¼stenfliegergruppe designation of KÃ?Â¼. It appears that in the time the guns were being produced (we agree upon the 1941-1945 timeframe), most if not all KÃ?Â¼stenfliegergruppen were renamed or disbanded. KÃ?Â¼strin, btw, shows no sign of being a Luftwaffe depot area, as John D. pointed out. It has a small artillery garrison, primarily because it was a border town at the Oder, near Poland. Putting a part of the luftwaffe supply chain in KÃ?Â¼strin would be foolish, even for Adolf's idiots. The town was split up after the war and the town centre was never rebuilt. Part of the town became Polish property (Kostrzyn nad Odr) and only a small part became a German village, in DDR land. The town was fought over pretty fiercely in 1945 and almost completely destroyed.

09-05-2005, 12:56 PM	#48
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	Nice Russ, I still have room in my safe ed

09-05-2005, 12:57 PM	#49
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Thanks for posting this picture, Russ. I think you told me about this acquisition at Reno. Could you post more views?

09-05-2005, 06:27 PM	#50
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	Very nice!!!! Like Doc - I'd like to see more, too... John D.

04-29-2006, 01:01 PM	#51
tenbears User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 370 Thanks: 3 Thanked 26 Times in 15 Posts	I spoke to a long time Luger collector who told me that while he was in Germany. He came across a article about KU's in the magazine German Weapon Journal. Since his German wasnt to good he could not understand most of it. This magazine is still being published. I wonder if someone could contact the editor for more info.

07-07-2006, 10:26 PM	#53
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	According to Krieghoff Lugers (Gibson), he talked about the theory of KU's being associated with Kreighoff's (he did not beleive it), and he states wood or black plastic are found on KU's, just wood is more common. Ed

07-07-2006, 10:30 PM	#54
waltherguy User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: FL Posts: 201 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Very Cool, Good to know! Thanks Ed. __________________ "In a man to man fight the winner is the one who puts an extra round in his magazine" -Field Marshal Erwin Rommel