G-Date Waffenamt Marks

Frank · 10-25-2003, 12:46 PM

Hi Guys, I am asking all with G-Dates for a little assistance. First we know there were about 55,000 of these little jewels made. There are six combinations of waffenamt marks, the most of any other Third Reich Luger. I have been compiling lists, trying to establish the serial number range for each set of marks. These marks are:

B|90 and S-91
B|90 and S-92
W|154 and S-92
DE/211 and S-92
DE/63 and S-92
DE/63 and DE/63

I would appreciate any information on these pistols that provide me with the serial number, including the suffix and the waffenamt mark combination for that pistol.

I will not record the name of the individual supplying the information, only the information.

You can list the data here, send me a private email from the forum or email me directly at mrbguy@msn.com

Thanks in advance for any help!!

John D. · 10-25-2003, 01:02 PM

Hi Frank,

I don't know if you caught my reply on the P 38 Forum, so here is mine.. Hope it helps!

G - Date - SN: 8628 a
W|154 - S-92 - Eagle

mowzerluvr · 10-25-2003, 01:47 PM

You know mine by now I'm sure, but anyhow.
DE/63 - DE/63 - Eagle
8752 d "G" date

ToggleTop · 10-25-2003, 04:52 PM

Hey Frank,
Here's One.
G-Date S/N 7895C
W154, S92

Doug G. · 10-25-2003, 11:17 PM

Frank I have the following.
Sn 2154d E/211 S-92
Sn 3278d E/211 S-92

Frank · 10-26-2003, 12:30 PM

John D., Dave, Toggle Top & Doug, thanks much for the data. It is appreciated. I'll let you know the results when I can get enough data.

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ken d · 10-26-2003, 07:17 PM

Frank:
FYI
2508e de/63de/63
808b w154 s92

Rgards Ken D

Tony S. · 10-26-2003, 07:27 PM

Frank,
Here is mine:
6008e DE/63, DE/63, Eagle

kidvett · 10-26-2003, 10:09 PM

Hello Frank,

Back to work after a couple of very successfull Grouse Hunting trips !!

G Date I have :

Ser no 6435 unknown suffix,armorers replaced frame
Proofs: B|90 S|92

Mark <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Frank · 10-27-2003, 08:22 AM

Hi Kid, thanks for the try, but if it's a G-Date, it has to have a suffix!!

I do appreciate your effort!

jamese · 10-29-2003, 05:21 AM

Frank,

1131-d 211 S|92

When you compile the data I would like a copy too!

Jim

Brent B. · 10-29-2003, 11:58 AM

Frank,
I have an S/42 G s/n 5745e it has two D/63's and a mark I'm not sure of but saw it in "Luger" by John Walter, page 114 - the photo in the upper right hand corner shows the two D/63's and the other mark.

Brent B.

Frank · 10-29-2003, 02:56 PM

James and Brent, thanks much!!

Brent, the third stamp is a proof mark. This means the pistol was fired with over charged ammunition and successfully passed this over pressure test. On G-Dates this is identified as Proof Number 1, or sometimes as Fine Tailed Eagle.

Hugh · 10-30-2003, 12:53 AM

Here's mine:

70f DE63 DE63 Eagle
1504b W154 S92 Eagle

LugerLizzie · 10-30-2003, 04:26 PM

Frank, As I am new to Lugers and the forum, I'm going to need a little help identifying my G date. Where do i find the suffix (and what does it mean?). Also need help with "Waffenamt Marks" where located on the gun? what possibilities are there? what do they mean????

John Sabato · 10-30-2003, 05:16 PM

Here is an example of where the suffix letter is found on the front of the frame below the serial number...

This example also shows the suffix on two matching magazines

This serial number is 2360s

Frank · 10-31-2003, 10:33 AM

Hugh, thanks a bunch!!

LugerLizzie, the serial number and suffix are as John described. The acceptance marks are located on the right side of the receiver, just behind the barrel. There are three stamps, the two to the rear are the acceptance marks and the one closest to the barrel is the proof mark.

LugerLizzie · 11-02-2003, 05:10 PM

Frank, after inspection my G date is, ser.# 8846 b, W154, S92. by the way does anyone happen to have a sideplate with the # 46 on it? that is the only thing on my luger that looks bad (it's pretty well pitted).

Edward Tinker · 11-02-2003, 06:01 PM

Better to have a pitted original part, than a replacement. So, buy a replacement, and keep the orginal,

Ed

Frank · 11-02-2003, 10:20 PM

LugerLizzie, thanks for taking the time to post your data!!

10-25-2003, 12:46 PM	#1
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	G-Date Waffenamt Marks Hi Guys, I am asking all with G-Dates for a little assistance. First we know there were about 55,000 of these little jewels made. There are six combinations of waffenamt marks, the most of any other Third Reich Luger. I have been compiling lists, trying to establish the serial number range for each set of marks. These marks are: B\|90 and S-91 B\|90 and S-92 W\|154 and S-92 DE/211 and S-92 DE/63 and S-92 DE/63 and DE/63 I would appreciate any information on these pistols that provide me with the serial number, including the suffix and the waffenamt mark combination for that pistol. I will not record the name of the individual supplying the information, only the information. You can list the data here, send me a private email from the forum or email me directly at mrbguy@msn.com Thanks in advance for any help!!

10-25-2003, 04:52 PM	#4
ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey Frank, Here's One. G-Date S/N 7895C W154, S92 __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************

10-25-2003, 11:17 PM	#5
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	Frank I have the following. Sn 2154d E/211 S-92 Sn 3278d E/211 S-92 __________________ Suppose you were an idiot.....and suppose you were a member of Congress.....But I repeat myself" ~~ Mark Twain

10-29-2003, 05:21 AM	#11
jamese User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 789 Thanks: 0 Thanked 84 Times in 34 Posts	Frank, 1131-d 211 S\|92 When you compile the data I would like a copy too! Jim __________________ The "truth" is a matter of Perception

10-30-2003, 12:53 AM	#14
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Here's mine: 70f DE63 DE63 Eagle 1504b W154 S92 Eagle __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

10-25-2003, 01:02 PM	#2
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	Hi Frank, I don't know if you caught my reply on the P 38 Forum, so here is mine.. Hope it helps! G - Date - SN: 8628 a W\|154 - S-92 - Eagle

10-25-2003, 01:47 PM	#3
mowzerluvr User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You know mine by now I'm sure, but anyhow. DE/63 - DE/63 - Eagle 8752 d "G" date

10-26-2003, 12:30 PM	#6
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	John D., Dave, Toggle Top & Doug, thanks much for the data. It is appreciated. I'll let you know the results when I can get enough data. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

10-26-2003, 07:17 PM	#7
ken d Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: louisville ky Posts: 277 Thanks: 31 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Frank: FYI 2508e de/63de/63 808b w154 s92 Rgards Ken D

10-26-2003, 07:27 PM	#8
Tony S. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 173 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Frank, Here is mine: 6008e DE/63, DE/63, Eagle

10-26-2003, 10:09 PM	#9
kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Hello Frank, Back to work after a couple of very successfull Grouse Hunting trips !! G Date I have : Ser no 6435 unknown suffix,armorers replaced frame Proofs: B\|90 S\|92 Mark <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

10-27-2003, 08:22 AM	#10
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Hi Kid, thanks for the try, but if it's a G-Date, it has to have a suffix!! I do appreciate your effort!

10-29-2003, 11:58 AM	#12
Brent B. User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 176 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Frank, I have an S/42 G s/n 5745e it has two D/63's and a mark I'm not sure of but saw it in "Luger" by John Walter, page 114 - the photo in the upper right hand corner shows the two D/63's and the other mark. Brent B.

10-29-2003, 02:56 PM	#13
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	James and Brent, thanks much!! Brent, the third stamp is a proof mark. This means the pistol was fired with over charged ammunition and successfully passed this over pressure test. On G-Dates this is identified as Proof Number 1, or sometimes as Fine Tailed Eagle.

10-30-2003, 04:26 PM	#15
LugerLizzie User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Calif. Coast Posts: 46 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Frank, As I am new to Lugers and the forum, I'm going to need a little help identifying my G date. Where do i find the suffix (and what does it mean?). Also need help with "Waffenamt Marks" where located on the gun? what possibilities are there? what do they mean????

10-30-2003, 05:16 PM	#16
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Here is an example of where the suffix letter is found on the front of the frame below the serial number... This example also shows the suffix on two matching magazines This serial number is 2360s __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-31-2003, 10:33 AM	#17
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Hugh, thanks a bunch!! LugerLizzie, the serial number and suffix are as John described. The acceptance marks are located on the right side of the receiver, just behind the barrel. There are three stamps, the two to the rear are the acceptance marks and the one closest to the barrel is the proof mark.

11-02-2003, 05:10 PM	#18
LugerLizzie User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Calif. Coast Posts: 46 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Frank, after inspection my G date is, ser.# 8846 b, W154, S92. by the way does anyone happen to have a sideplate with the # 46 on it? that is the only thing on my luger that looks bad (it's pretty well pitted).

11-02-2003, 06:01 PM	#19
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	Better to have a pitted original part, than a replacement. So, buy a replacement, and keep the orginal, Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-02-2003, 10:20 PM	#20
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	LugerLizzie, thanks for taking the time to post your data!!