opinions on this luger on GB

battering ram · 12-12-2017, 06:03 PM

Hello, new here...getting into collecting German guns and thought it was time to consider a Luger. This one peaked my interest and i hoped to learn from your opinions and comments. I know i need to order a book and gain knowledge

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/724882727

when i bought my M1 Garand i looked into auctions similar to this one...beautiful pics....guns sold for $500 over market+....i ended up buying a collector grade off the CMP forum from a member for much less....

the finish on this gun looks too good to me to be real

Norme · 12-12-2017, 06:13 PM

Hi David,
Welcome to the forum! That gun looks fine to me, I expect it'll go much higher before the 5 days are up, like over 2k.
Regards,
Norm

4 Scale · 12-12-2017, 06:23 PM

The finish does look good, but it passes the basic tests for original finish. There are halos on the barrel serials, wear seems consistent on all parts, s-link is in the white. If I was looking for a nice '37 with strawed parts and a matching magazine I would consider it.

pitsword · 12-12-2017, 06:56 PM

What about the fire blue toggle pin??

battering ram · 12-12-2017, 07:03 PM

What is the holster worth by itself ?

gunbugs · 12-12-2017, 09:25 PM

That looks like a pretty gun. The holster is probably 250.00+. If I needed that gun, I wouldn't be afraid to bid 1900 or so. Figure the pistol by itself at 1600.00+. Then add the holster.....You can't pay too much for a good gun. But, that's just my opinion, which ain't worth much.

4 Scale · 12-12-2017, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pitsword

What about the fire blue toggle pin??

My '36 has both the front and rear toggle links fire blued, and they are almost as bright as the toggle links on this gun, i.e. looks fine to me.

battering ram · 12-12-2017, 09:41 PM

from looking at past SOLD auctions it appears these usually sell pretty high...i see $2500 on some of them....lowest is $2,200....i am willing to get into the $2,000s but not $2,500.....just trying to add in the value of the holster.

having such nice pictures always seems to add so much value and extra bidders...its what caught my attention....so many pics and all high quality....

i just threw my bid in the mix......sadly i think from past auction sales it will be higher

thanks for your help.....now to order that book

Edward Tinker · 12-12-2017, 10:02 PM

so, is a pre-USA into the war Luger what you are looking for? (war officially started with invasion of Poland in 1939)

I like to say, find out what you're interested in - technically any military or police luger that left Germany after 1945 could have been in the war.

But, if looking for WW2 lugers, any Mauser made Luger would fit the bill for me, but if wanting to be technical, I would look for 1939 and newer - but any mauser made luger would be K date and newer with 1939, 1940, 41 and 42 army would fit the bill or police, same time period.

Anyway, my advice is always, figure out if you want army, navy or police - imperial, weimar or nazi

ED

battering ram · 12-12-2017, 10:13 PM

i like the strawed and beginning of 37 was it....this gun has everything id want.....but it also has everything others want too....i like to buy quality and a bit rare...

ww2 not as important, but id assume it saw service?

Norme · 12-13-2017, 07:36 AM

What hasn't been mentioned is that matching # magazine, most experienced collectors figure that adds 25% to the value of a high condition gun.
Norm

Major Tom · 12-13-2017, 11:05 AM

The one time I asked about a Gunbroker luger here someone here went and bid on it and WON.

DavidJayUden · 12-13-2017, 11:08 AM

I guess there is no honor among thieves...
dju

battering ram · 12-13-2017, 12:02 PM

There is always that risk...in this case i dont think the bidding will be close...i will be out bid by hundreds....sadly i cannot find any similar to mine that hasnt sold for a much higher price on GB..typically $2800

i prefer a forum member sale and not a GB auction....a set price and its done vs waiting 10 days just to get outbid with 1 minute left on the clock

this is my first dabble into Lugers....im in the learning phase...if i win thats great!!....if i lose ill keep learning and on to the next one...

DavidJayUden · 12-13-2017, 12:11 PM

You are setting your sights pretty high on that one. I'm guessing that a lot of collectors would like to dump their 1937 and upgrade to that one.
There are lots of other very nice Lugers available in the $2k range, but in the end, remember that it's only dirty paper...
dju

DonVoigt · 12-13-2017, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major Tom

The one time I asked about a Gunbroker luger here someone here went and bid on it and WON.

Happens all the time; reason some boards don't allow links to current auctions.

Got to hate it when that happens, but then maybe they were watching it already!

DonVoigt · 12-13-2017, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

I guess there is no honor among thieves...
dju

All's fair in love, war, and luger auctions.

battering ram · 12-13-2017, 01:15 PM

here's another 37 i have an opportunity at....i believe its a later 37 with the different finish...i comes with 2 sets of grips and i dont know if the Swastika ones are repro or not...or what value they add...

just looking for opinions on this one also....this is in the price range im interested in spending

John Sabato · 12-13-2017, 01:23 PM

The swastika grips are a fantasy item. Someone ruined what looks like a fine pair of original grips to make them by adding those badges... too bad. Even though they appear to be original and matching numbers to the gun, since thay are modified, they detract from the value IMHO. The pistol was made in later part of 1937 after the change from strawed small parts to blued finish.

battering ram · 12-13-2017, 01:27 PM

it comes with 2 sets of grips...original #'d AND those Nazi party grips....they are just an extra....i figured after market/repro something

12-12-2017, 06:03 PM	#1
battering ram User Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts	opinions on this luger on GB Hello, new here...getting into collecting German guns and thought it was time to consider a Luger. This one peaked my interest and i hoped to learn from your opinions and comments. I know i need to order a book and gain knowledge http://www.gunbroker.com/item/724882727 when i bought my M1 Garand i looked into auctions similar to this one...beautiful pics....guns sold for $500 over market+....i ended up buying a collector grade off the CMP forum from a member for much less.... the finish on this gun looks too good to me to be real

12-12-2017, 07:03 PM	#5
battering ram User Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts	What is the holster worth by itself ? Last edited by battering ram; 12-12-2017 at 08:20 PM.

12-12-2017, 10:02 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	so, is a pre-USA into the war Luger what you are looking for? (war officially started with invasion of Poland in 1939) I like to say, find out what you're interested in - technically any military or police luger that left Germany after 1945 could have been in the war. But, if looking for WW2 lugers, any Mauser made Luger would fit the bill for me, but if wanting to be technical, I would look for 1939 and newer - but any mauser made luger would be K date and newer with 1939, 1940, 41 and 42 army would fit the bill or police, same time period. Anyway, my advice is always, figure out if you want army, navy or police - imperial, weimar or nazi ED __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-12-2017, 10:13 PM	#10
battering ram User Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts	i like the strawed and beginning of 37 was it....this gun has everything id want.....but it also has everything others want too....i like to buy quality and a bit rare... ww2 not as important, but id assume it saw service? Last edited by battering ram; 12-13-2017 at 07:59 AM.

12-13-2017, 11:05 AM	#12
Major Tom User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: S.E. Iowa Posts: 481 Thanks: 531 Thanked 226 Times in 123 Posts	The one time I asked about a Gunbroker luger here someone here went and bid on it and WON. __________________ I Build Custom Pistol Boxes

12-12-2017, 06:13 PM	#2
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	Hi David, Welcome to the forum! That gun looks fine to me, I expect it'll go much higher before the 5 days are up, like over 2k. Regards, Norm

12-12-2017, 06:23 PM	#3
4 Scale User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 544 Thanks: 194 Thanked 489 Times in 251 Posts	The finish does look good, but it passes the basic tests for original finish. There are halos on the barrel serials, wear seems consistent on all parts, s-link is in the white. If I was looking for a nice '37 with strawed parts and a matching magazine I would consider it.

12-12-2017, 06:56 PM	#4
pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 454 Thanks: 3,884 Thanked 101 Times in 81 Posts	What about the fire blue toggle pin??

12-12-2017, 09:25 PM	#6
gunbugs Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose. Posts: 635 Thanks: 335 Thanked 1,139 Times in 377 Posts	That looks like a pretty gun. The holster is probably 250.00+. If I needed that gun, I wouldn't be afraid to bid 1900 or so. Figure the pistol by itself at 1600.00+. Then add the holster.....You can't pay too much for a good gun. But, that's just my opinion, which ain't worth much.

12-12-2017, 09:41 PM	#8
battering ram User Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts	from looking at past SOLD auctions it appears these usually sell pretty high...i see $2500 on some of them....lowest is $2,200....i am willing to get into the $2,000s but not $2,500.....just trying to add in the value of the holster. having such nice pictures always seems to add so much value and extra bidders...its what caught my attention....so many pics and all high quality.... i just threw my bid in the mix......sadly i think from past auction sales it will be higher thanks for your help.....now to order that book

12-13-2017, 07:36 AM	#11
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	What hasn't been mentioned is that matching # magazine, most experienced collectors figure that adds 25% to the value of a high condition gun. Norm

12-13-2017, 11:08 AM	#13
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I guess there is no honor among thieves... dju

12-13-2017, 12:02 PM	#14
battering ram User Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts	There is always that risk...in this case i dont think the bidding will be close...i will be out bid by hundreds....sadly i cannot find any similar to mine that hasnt sold for a much higher price on GB..typically $2800 i prefer a forum member sale and not a GB auction....a set price and its done vs waiting 10 days just to get outbid with 1 minute left on the clock this is my first dabble into Lugers....im in the learning phase...if i win thats great!!....if i lose ill keep learning and on to the next one...

12-13-2017, 12:11 PM	#15
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	You are setting your sights pretty high on that one. I'm guessing that a lot of collectors would like to dump their 1937 and upgrade to that one. There are lots of other very nice Lugers available in the $2k range, but in the end, remember that it's only dirty paper... dju

12-13-2017, 01:15 PM	#18
battering ram User Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts	here's another 37 i have an opportunity at....i believe its a later 37 with the different finish...i comes with 2 sets of grips and i dont know if the Swastika ones are repro or not...or what value they add... just looking for opinions on this one also....this is in the price range im interested in spending

12-13-2017, 01:23 PM	#19
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	The swastika grips are a fantasy item. Someone ruined what looks like a fine pair of original grips to make them by adding those badges... too bad. Even though they appear to be original and matching numbers to the gun, since thay are modified, they detract from the value IMHO. The pistol was made in later part of 1937 after the change from strawed small parts to blued finish. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

12-13-2017, 01:27 PM	#20
battering ram User Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts	it comes with 2 sets of grips...original #'d AND those Nazi party grips....they are just an extra....i figured after market/repro something