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Unread 04-16-2002, 05:57 PM   #1
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Default An rather unusual suffix letter...

This suffix letter doesn't match the examples in our technical information section...


It is from a piece being auctioned currently on Gunbroker (search for "rare" and you will find it.) The suffix letter on the lower frame under the barrel is identical...


Anyone care to comment on the seller's story about this suffix letter or perhaps have a good reference for this suffix example??


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Unread 04-16-2002, 06:27 PM   #2
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Default Re: An rather unusual suffix letter...

John are you talking about what looks like a NV in cursive? If so both my BW and S/42-36 have that mark on the frame just under the serial number.



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Default Re: An rather unusual suffix letter...

That is a lower case "r" in the "alte schrift" or old style german script.



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Default Re: An rather unusual suffix letter...

"r" for rare! lol



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Default Re: An rather unusual suffix letter...

Look in Technical Section under suffix, then Suffix 2. Gortz sez it's a "w"



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Default Don't believe Gortz sez its a "w"

Not enough vertical strokes to make it a "w". Still think it is a "r" according to a very obscure reference I have in my files but can't reproduce to post.



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Default Re: Believe Gortz

This is definately a stylized W, and as far as I know, used only in 1938. Tom h



 
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Default Thanks for all the responses!

It was a great thread, But in this case I think Frank may have found the answer...


I had only looked at the 'n' and 'r' as a possibility... I would never have guessed a 'w'


See the example circled in red taken from Suffix2 of our technical page on markings...


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Looks like a match to me! Thor



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Default Looks good to me

Guess I will throw away my reference.



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Default Were no 1938 "w" -- only 1937 (EOM)

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Default Tom H & Bill this gun IS 1937 not 1938...

Here is the link...


http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=3659792


Perhaps Tom had a typo error on his post?


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Default Re: Were no 1938 "w" -- only 1937

What year(s) were the "w" guns? As I previusly stated I have a 36 and a 42 with that stamp. Being new to Lugers I am trying to learn. David



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Default "W" blocks

Hi David,

Jan Still's book, "Third Reich Lugers" has a fairly accurate chart which will show you the different letter blocks. There is some overlap on some, but for the most part it is real good information. "W" blocks were found in the 1937 S/42, 1939 42, and byf 41 models. -- And the "W" block was also used in the Mauser Banner commercial and police models, but the military and Banner "W"'s are two seperate, distinct blocks.



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