1936 S/42 No waffenamt?

instructor · 01-21-2020, 02:55 PM

I have a 1936 S/42, all matching serial numbers, stick eagle on barrel. There are no other waffenamt markings on the right side. Why are there no markings? Does it make the luger less valuable/collectible? Has matching 1936 dated holster.

Thanks for help

gunbugs · 01-21-2020, 03:05 PM

You will have to post photos to get informed answers.

instructor · 01-21-2020, 06:39 PM

I apologize for misinformation, Luger is 1937 not 1936. Also has one matching magazine.

https://link.shutterfly.com/S3aIDzjnr3

instructor · 01-21-2020, 06:50 PM

Enhanced pictures, better quality. I hope this helps.

https://link.shutterfly.com/rh87Wy4nr3

Mac Cat · 01-21-2020, 06:52 PM

We can't see pictures on Shutterfly or many other photo web sites. You will want to upload them with a posting here.

instructor · 01-21-2020, 07:08 PM

How do I do that? I have them saved to desktop. Obviously, I don't know what I am doing. Dialog box asked for url which I dont have. How do I transfer them.

HerrKaiser · 01-21-2020, 07:22 PM

FAQ and stickies on the forum will help you with the process of uploading pictures.

gunbugs · 01-21-2020, 08:41 PM

When you add a reply, scroll down to "manage attachments".

instructor · 01-21-2020, 08:51 PM

Looking for information as to why there are no waffenamt other than stick eagle on barrel. Due to their absence is value/collectability less? Has one matching magazine and holster.

Thank you

Lyn Islaub · 01-21-2020, 09:24 PM

Your pictures are very dark and I cannot lighten them enough to give an informed opinion. can you find a way to lighten them enough to reveal more detail.
Thx, Lyn

DonVoigt · 01-21-2020, 11:01 PM

Better pictures for a better answer, but if there are no markings, then it is highly likely they were removed during refinishing.

If they are missing, it would be worth less, IMO.

gunbugs · 01-22-2020, 10:30 AM

Try a green or red background. White will darken the gun in the photos, as the camera adjusts for the white background. Closer would be better as well.

instructor · 01-22-2020, 10:30 AM

Tried lighten

Vlim · 01-22-2020, 10:54 AM

Lightened it a bit more.

instructor · 01-22-2020, 11:01 AM

Hope these help to make determination. Why is this considered worthless?

instructor · 01-22-2020, 11:03 AM

seem to have trouble with uploading

Vlim · 01-22-2020, 01:17 PM

I think it might be a replacement receiver, old army gun smith repair. Finish looks good to me.

instructor · 01-22-2020, 01:47 PM

Vlim:
Does this make firearm worthless as Don Voight indicates?
I am not looking to sell only determine value.

guns3545 · 01-22-2020, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by instructor

I apologize for misinformation, Luger is 1937 not 1936. Also has one matching magazine.

https://link.shutterfly.com/S3aIDzjnr3

Dick,

Is the magazine that is shown in the gun what you refer to as one matching magazine?? If so, it is not original to the gun by any means as this particular type did not come into use until late 1940.

As you probably know, serial numbers repeated themselves, both number and suffix about every two years, so conceivably the magazine could have the same number as the gun.

But the magazine design evolved over the period 1930 to 1942 and in 1940 a completely new design came into use as the Haenel Patent magazines replaced the Mauser made magazines.

Please ignore this post if you were referring to a different magazine than the one pictured in the gun.

John

Vlim · 01-22-2020, 03:16 PM

He did not say its worthless, but worth less, i.e. not as much as a proper WaA marked example.

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01-21-2020, 02:55 PM	#1
instructor User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 34 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	1936 S/42 No waffenamt? I have a 1936 S/42, all matching serial numbers, stick eagle on barrel. There are no other waffenamt markings on the right side. Why are there no markings? Does it make the luger less valuable/collectible? Has matching 1936 dated holster. Thanks for help

01-21-2020, 07:22 PM	#7
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01-21-2020, 08:51 PM	#9
instructor User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 34 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	1937 s/42 Looking for information as to why there are no waffenamt other than stick eagle on barrel. Due to their absence is value/collectability less? Has one matching magazine and holster. Thank you Attached Thumbnails

01-21-2020, 11:01 PM	#11
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Better pictures for a better answer, but if there are no markings, then it is highly likely they were removed during refinishing. If they are missing, it would be worth less, IMO. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

01-22-2020, 10:30 AM	#13
instructor User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 34 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	S/42 No Waffenamt Tried lighten Attached Thumbnails

01-21-2020, 03:05 PM	#2
gunbugs Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose. Posts: 659 Thanks: 365 Thanked 1,178 Times in 394 Posts	You will have to post photos to get informed answers.

01-21-2020, 06:39 PM	#3
instructor User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 34 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I apologize for misinformation, Luger is 1937 not 1936. Also has one matching magazine. https://link.shutterfly.com/S3aIDzjnr3

01-21-2020, 06:50 PM	#4
instructor User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 34 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Enhanced pictures, better quality. I hope this helps. https://link.shutterfly.com/rh87Wy4nr3

01-21-2020, 06:52 PM	#5
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 730 Thanks: 2,093 Thanked 608 Times in 328 Posts	We can't see pictures on Shutterfly or many other photo web sites. You will want to upload them with a posting here.

01-21-2020, 07:08 PM	#6
instructor User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 34 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	How do I do that? I have them saved to desktop. Obviously, I don't know what I am doing. Dialog box asked for url which I dont have. How do I transfer them.

01-21-2020, 08:41 PM	#8
gunbugs Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose. Posts: 659 Thanks: 365 Thanked 1,178 Times in 394 Posts	When you add a reply, scroll down to "manage attachments".

01-21-2020, 09:24 PM	#10
Lyn Islaub Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 435 Thanks: 3 Thanked 152 Times in 72 Posts	Your pictures are very dark and I cannot lighten them enough to give an informed opinion. can you find a way to lighten them enough to reveal more detail. Thx, Lyn

01-22-2020, 10:54 AM	#14
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Lightened it a bit more. Attached Thumbnails

01-22-2020, 11:01 AM	#15
instructor User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 34 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	S/42 No Waffenamt Hope these help to make determination. Why is this considered worthless?

01-22-2020, 11:03 AM	#16
instructor User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 34 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	S/42 seem to have trouble with uploading Attached Thumbnails

01-22-2020, 01:17 PM	#17
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	I think it might be a replacement receiver, old army gun smith repair. Finish looks good to me.

01-22-2020, 01:47 PM	#18
instructor User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 34 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Vlim: Does this make firearm worthless as Don Voight indicates? I am not looking to sell only determine value.

01-22-2020, 03:16 PM	#20
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	He did not say its worthless, but worth less, i.e. not as much as a proper WaA marked example. I