A Simple Test Luger Holster Question

cirelaw · 02-15-2008, 01:37 PM

Eric, I was Reading Jans' masterpiece, Central Powers Pistols, on page 420, and realizing Jans' Rock Island Arsenal holster was to be worn on the right side, where as mine and another I saw was made for the left side. Has this query been discussed elsewhere. If not, why not? Such as what proportion, between left and right handed were produced? Also, why do initials appear only on a few holsters and have any front flap initials appear on any left handed versions. And finally, does any Luger Historian have any idea just how many of these historical holsters, still remain? I hoping Ron will lend his valued opinion,.

Ron Wood · 02-15-2008, 03:01 PM

As the Luger was being considered for cavalry use, the holster was designed to be worn on the right side, butt forward, cavalry style for left-handed cross draw. There are some "right-handed" holsters in existence that were either intended to be worn by lefties on the left side butt forward for right handed cross draw or were for conventional right handed use. Not many of these right-handed holsters have turned up and I do not know if they were original issue or not, and I have no idea what the proportion of left- to right-handed holsters produced may be. I do not know why some holsters do not have initials on the front flap, but that would be one point of alarm to start checking to see if anything else was out of the ordinary. I do not know how many test holsters are still in existance, I would WAG a couple of dozen. Possibly why this topic has not been discussed at length is that there are no records. No one knows for sure whether right-handed holsters were produced at the same time as left-handed holsters and it is impossible to know how many of either type still survive. They are scarce by any measure.

cirelaw · 02-15-2008, 06:01 PM

Ron thank God we have our resident historian, I proud of you, and thank you for your time, effort and devotion,

cirelaw · 02-16-2008, 08:55 AM

Since we are on the topic of the test luger accessories, I like to present my Lugers with the accessories for each historically significant Luger. I have the ammo,holster, but haven't come accross an appropriate 'US' buckle and belt, and EVENTUALLY a spare, 'Flame bomb' mag. any prospect, please 'E'-Me, Eric "Snookem13@Aol.com." God Bless and Thank You! and I must commend my favorite "Luger-Duder' RON!

Mike B · 02-16-2008, 08:58 PM

What is a nice "flaming bomb" mag worth these days????

Mike

cirelaw · 02-22-2008, 09:10 AM

I wish I knew, I need one myself, Eric snookem13@aol.com, tk

Imperial Arms · 02-22-2008, 08:55 PM

A nice 'flaming bomb' magazine could probably be in the price range of $250-$400.

Albert

cirelaw · 02-24-2008, 03:02 PM

I noted somewhere there were three variations of the so-called 'flaming bomb' mag, If so could you post the legit boomer?

Mike B · 03-03-2008, 08:30 AM

I can't be 100% sure my two are correct, but the probability of two being wrong is pretty far fetched. Besides, they both look too old to not be right.

Mike

alvin · 03-04-2008, 08:47 AM

Mike -- I just realized you're the same Mike in Jan's forum. IMHO, it's hard to tell this type of tiny stamp on wood. Unlike metal, wood is very soft.... even small delta in striking force could cause big appearance difference. Although DWM items were well made, I bet they did not take watchmaker's approach.

Just a little thought.... please let me know if I am wrong.

Mike B · 03-04-2008, 10:30 AM

Alvin,
I am not sure there is a right and wrong or good and bad. I feel like my two look enough alike to say they were made by the same stamp.

Mike

alvin · 03-04-2008, 03:35 PM

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02-15-2008, 01:37 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	A Simple Test Luger Holster Question Eric, I was Reading Jans' masterpiece, Central Powers Pistols, on page 420, and realizing Jans' Rock Island Arsenal holster was to be worn on the right side, where as mine and another I saw was made for the left side. Has this query been discussed elsewhere. If not, why not? Such as what proportion, between left and right handed were produced? Also, why do initials appear only on a few holsters and have any front flap initials appear on any left handed versions. And finally, does any Luger Historian have any idea just how many of these historical holsters, still remain? I hoping Ron will lend his valued opinion,.

02-15-2008, 03:01 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,987 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,090 Times in 1,675 Posts	As the Luger was being considered for cavalry use, the holster was designed to be worn on the right side, butt forward, cavalry style for left-handed cross draw. There are some "right-handed" holsters in existence that were either intended to be worn by lefties on the left side butt forward for right handed cross draw or were for conventional right handed use. Not many of these right-handed holsters have turned up and I do not know if they were original issue or not, and I have no idea what the proportion of left- to right-handed holsters produced may be. I do not know why some holsters do not have initials on the front flap, but that would be one point of alarm to start checking to see if anything else was out of the ordinary. I do not know how many test holsters are still in existance, I would WAG a couple of dozen. Possibly why this topic has not been discussed at length is that there are no records. No one knows for sure whether right-handed holsters were produced at the same time as left-handed holsters and it is impossible to know how many of either type still survive. They are scarce by any measure. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

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Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 271 Times in 99 Posts	Two test eagle pictures I can't be 100% sure my two are correct, but the probability of two being wrong is pretty far fetched. Besides, they both look too old to not be right. Mike

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cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Ron thank God we have our resident historian, I proud of you, and thank you for your time, effort and devotion,

02-16-2008, 08:55 AM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Since we are on the topic of the test luger accessories, I like to present my Lugers with the accessories for each historically significant Luger. I have the ammo,holster, but haven't come accross an appropriate 'US' buckle and belt, and EVENTUALLY a spare, 'Flame bomb' mag. any prospect, please 'E'-Me, Eric "Snookem13@Aol.com." God Bless and Thank You! and I must commend my favorite "Luger-Duder' RON!

02-16-2008, 08:58 PM	#5
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 271 Times in 99 Posts	What is a nice "flaming bomb" mag worth these days???? Mike

02-22-2008, 09:10 AM	#6
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I wish I knew, I need one myself, Eric snookem13@aol.com, tk

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Imperial Arms Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Malta, EU Posts: 579 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	A nice 'flaming bomb' magazine could probably be in the price range of $250-$400. Albert

02-24-2008, 03:02 PM	#8
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I noted somewhere there were three variations of the so-called 'flaming bomb' mag, If so could you post the legit boomer?

03-04-2008, 08:47 AM	#10
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Mike -- I just realized you're the same Mike in Jan's forum. IMHO, it's hard to tell this type of tiny stamp on wood. Unlike metal, wood is very soft.... even small delta in striking force could cause big appearance difference. Although DWM items were well made, I bet they did not take watchmaker's approach. Just a little thought.... please let me know if I am wrong.

03-04-2008, 10:30 AM	#11
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 271 Times in 99 Posts	Alvin, I am not sure there is a right and wrong or good and bad. I feel like my two look enough alike to say they were made by the same stamp. Mike