New member Navy Rework Luger

artmccann · 09-24-2010, 05:22 PM

The attached photos are of my Navy rework Luger. It is: DWM, s/n 2593a (numbers are the same size on frame and barrel, small parts have 93, 9mm, barrel which had been cut down (sight area shows no buildup) is evenly cut with proper crown and 4", has been blued, unknown if during rework (no halos and blueing covering light pitting), no number on chamber (does not look like anything has been buffed out), no import marks.
Your comments and critique would be appreciated (good or bad). It will reported to the fake list is the discussion so indicates. Enjoy the pictures, still learning. I think if you click on the picture it enlarges.

Norme · 09-24-2010, 06:10 PM

Hi Art, Thanks for showing us pictures of your '06 Navy #2593a, Weimar rework. I consider this rework part of your gun's honorable service history, and not evidence of fakery or boosting. There are several similar guns in "The Navy List", the data base I maintain. Send an email to me at normrab@comcast.net , and I'll send you the link. Regards, Norm

artmccann · 09-24-2010, 11:51 PM

Norm, got your e-mail list last week. Great list. First thing I did after printing was check this Luger against the list. That printed list has been placed at the head of my Luger section in a 3-ring. What I did notice, is a couple #s close the this Luger's s/n.
I understand from your comments, this one is real. Was I correct in the reblueing by my observations; and, the barrel being cut down? Do you know if this Luger has ever been questioned in the past?
Your comments make me feel good about this one. I did not know a thing about Lugers when I bought this one, I just liked it because of its difference. I actually have 2 more I bought the same way; I will post as I get the photos.
I am learning from the forum, its members and the books I can afford and find. I have slowed my jumping since I met the forum.
Again, thank you for your comments, much appreciated.

Norme · 09-25-2010, 12:15 AM

Hi Art, There is a very similar Weimar Navy reworked 1906 Navy #6199a, N/1952 marked gun, illustrated on page 95 of "Weimar Lugers". Regards, Norm

Ron Smith · 09-25-2010, 10:35 AM

Art,

That's a nice legitimate Weimar Reichsmarine rework.

Ron

Ron Wood · 09-25-2010, 05:44 PM

Yep, converted to a thumb safety only...a drop in conversion, but requires modification/replacement of the sear bar.

sheepherder · 09-25-2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood

Yep, converted to a thumb safety only...a drop in conversion, but requires modification/replacement of the sear bar.

Would the rear frame strap slot for the grip safety have been welded in as part of this modification??? I'm curious as to how much machining would have been performed afterward on the weld...Would it show up if you looked inside the frame (under the grip)???

I enlarged & lightened the backstrap pic...I don't see any bluing mismatch...(where the slot would have been)...hmmm???...

Ron Wood · 09-25-2010, 09:31 PM

There is no frame strap slot for a grip safety. The wood grip is relieved to accommodate the safety.

sheepherder · 09-25-2010, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

There is no frame strap slot for a grip safety. The wood grip is relieved to accommodate the safety.

Ah!

artmccann · 09-25-2010, 11:50 PM

Good evening forum members.
I am posting bare frame and inside of the grips photos for your review and comments.

Ron Wood · 09-26-2010, 12:42 AM

A beautiful Weimar conversion of a 1906 First Issue Altered Navy, and your photos clearly show the original setup for the grip safety that has been removed.

sheepherder · 09-26-2010, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood

A beautiful Weimar conversion of a 1906 First Issue Altered Navy, and your photos clearly show the original setup for the grip safety that has been removed.

Ron, obviously I am not familiar with grip safety Lugers (I've never seen one, and the pic above is too small for me to make out differences), so could you point out the original setup that remains on the OP's Luger???

Grips must not be original to grip safety, correct???

artmccann · 09-26-2010, 10:26 PM

Ron, I am also interested in the grip safety items. Or, do you have a thread about the grip safeties I missed.
Art.

09-24-2010, 05:22 PM	#1
artmccann User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southwest Florida Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	New member Navy Rework Luger The attached photos are of my Navy rework Luger. It is: DWM, s/n 2593a (numbers are the same size on frame and barrel, small parts have 93, 9mm, barrel which had been cut down (sight area shows no buildup) is evenly cut with proper crown and 4", has been blued, unknown if during rework (no halos and blueing covering light pitting), no number on chamber (does not look like anything has been buffed out), no import marks. Your comments and critique would be appreciated (good or bad). It will reported to the fake list is the discussion so indicates. Enjoy the pictures, still learning. I think if you click on the picture it enlarges. Attached Images

09-24-2010, 11:51 PM	#3
artmccann User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southwest Florida Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Answer to Reply Norm, got your e-mail list last week. Great list. First thing I did after printing was check this Luger against the list. That printed list has been placed at the head of my Luger section in a 3-ring. What I did notice, is a couple #s close the this Luger's s/n. I understand from your comments, this one is real. Was I correct in the reblueing by my observations; and, the barrel being cut down? Do you know if this Luger has ever been questioned in the past? Your comments make me feel good about this one. I did not know a thing about Lugers when I bought this one, I just liked it because of its difference. I actually have 2 more I bought the same way; I will post as I get the photos. I am learning from the forum, its members and the books I can afford and find. I have slowed my jumping since I met the forum. Again, thank you for your comments, much appreciated.

09-25-2010, 10:35 AM	#5
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Art, That's a nice legitimate Weimar Reichsmarine rework. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

09-25-2010, 09:31 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,019 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,173 Times in 1,701 Posts	There is no frame strap slot for a grip safety. The wood grip is relieved to accommodate the safety. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-25-2010, 11:50 PM	#10
artmccann User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southwest Florida Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Reply Good evening forum members. I am posting bare frame and inside of the grips photos for your review and comments. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

09-24-2010, 06:10 PM	#2
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Art, Thanks for showing us pictures of your '06 Navy #2593a, Weimar rework. I consider this rework part of your gun's honorable service history, and not evidence of fakery or boosting. There are several similar guns in "The Navy List", the data base I maintain. Send an email to me at normrab@comcast.net , and I'll send you the link. Regards, Norm

09-25-2010, 12:15 AM	#4
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Art, There is a very similar Weimar Navy reworked 1906 Navy #6199a, N/1952 marked gun, illustrated on page 95 of "Weimar Lugers". Regards, Norm

09-25-2010, 05:44 PM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,019 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,173 Times in 1,701 Posts	Yep, converted to a thumb safety only...a drop in conversion, but requires modification/replacement of the sear bar. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-26-2010, 12:42 AM	#11
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,019 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,173 Times in 1,701 Posts	A beautiful Weimar conversion of a 1906 First Issue Altered Navy, and your photos clearly show the original setup for the grip safety that has been removed. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-26-2010, 10:26 PM	#13
artmccann User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southwest Florida Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Ron, I am also interested in the grip safety items. Or, do you have a thread about the grip safeties I missed. Art.