Need help with a 41 Black Widow

NZItaly · 12-09-2008, 02:06 PM

I've come across a 1941 P08 which appears to be a Black Widow 41 according to all the markings, only the serial number is only 3 digits? Is that correct?

wlyon · 12-09-2008, 04:57 PM

Not sure what you mean by Black Widow markings. Black Widow is a meaninless designation dreamed up by a US dealer for Lugers with Black grips. The markings are the same.Yes a 3 digit serial number can be correct. Can you give us some pictures? Welcome to the Forum. Bill

NZItaly · 12-10-2008, 02:47 PM

Thanks Very much for help...

These are not great pictures?

NZItaly · 12-10-2008, 02:58 PM

Other pics

John Sabato · 12-10-2008, 03:40 PM

As Wlyon states above...Your pistol with a 3 digit serial number is authentic and correct.

NZItaly · 12-14-2008, 02:36 AM

How do I determine ball park value and is this an early Luger, and the only reason I mentioned Black Widow is the book I got on Luger markings classifies this as either early/late BW 41?

Thanks

John Sabato · 12-14-2008, 05:32 PM

We cannot provide any type of value estimate without a good series of clear focus photographs of the complete gun from all angles... outdoors on a clear overcast day should be a good start for good lighting. All markings should be clearly shown.

12-09-2008, 02:06 PM	#1
NZItaly User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Need help with a 41 Black Widow I've come across a 1941 P08 which appears to be a Black Widow 41 according to all the markings, only the serial number is only 3 digits? Is that correct?

12-09-2008, 04:57 PM	#2
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,615 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,522 Times in 940 Posts	Not sure what you mean by Black Widow markings. Black Widow is a meaninless designation dreamed up by a US dealer for Lugers with Black grips. The markings are the same.Yes a 3 digit serial number can be correct. Can you give us some pictures? Welcome to the Forum. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

12-10-2008, 02:47 PM	#3
NZItaly User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Very much for help... These are not great pictures? Attached Thumbnails

12-10-2008, 02:58 PM	#4
NZItaly User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Other pics Attached Thumbnails

12-10-2008, 03:40 PM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	As Wlyon states above...Your pistol with a 3 digit serial number is authentic and correct. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

12-14-2008, 02:36 AM	#6
NZItaly User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	How do I determine ball park value and is this an early Luger, and the only reason I mentioned Black Widow is the book I got on Luger markings classifies this as either early/late BW 41? Thanks

12-14-2008, 05:32 PM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	We cannot provide any type of value estimate without a good series of clear focus photographs of the complete gun from all angles... outdoors on a clear overcast day should be a good start for good lighting. All markings should be clearly shown. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*