Jackpot!

Ron Wood · 02-14-2003, 08:32 PM

As many of you know, my collecting interest is Imperial era Lugers. One particularly elusive example has always been the 1913 Commercial with stock lug and grip safety. They fall in the 71,000 serial number range, and as late as 1991 in Jan StillÃ¢??s Ã¢??Imperial LugersÃ¢?Â, only two had been recorded and he estimated only 50 produced. Kenyon states that as many as 1000 may have been made, which was a 1969 estimate based primarily on the then known high and low serial numbers.
At any rate, they are rather scarce.

Today mine arrived! I was prepared for the worst since the seller described it as only about 90% original finish. It was a GI bring-back in a cut-down commercial Luger holster. You always expect the rating to be exaggerated. When I unwrapped the gun, I found that it is virtually new with only barely discernable wear on the left side of the muzzle band, slight brightening of the leading edge of the receiver rails, and the side plate hump has a nice even holster wear pattern around the edges. The numbers are crisp and sharp with the proper halo around the barrel and receiver Crown/N proofs and around the barrel serial number. The straw is deep and even with only slight lightening at the edges. It is a beautiful example of a rare gun, and I am really pleased to add it to my collection. Pictures will follow, hopefully some time next week.

Almost anticlimactic, but still exciting, is the arrival also today of a hard to find, out-of-print near mint copy of Ã¢??Bewaffnung und AusrÃ?Â¼stung der Schweizer Armee seit 1817Ã¢?Â by Christian Reinhart and Michael am Rhyn (last printed in 1975). It is the second volume Ã¢??Faustfeuerwaffen II SelbstladepistolenÃ¢?Â. It is a very well photo illustrated resource on early Swiss Army self-loading handguns and has wonderful pictures of early prototype semi-automatic pistols, to include the 1898 Test Luger, plus Bergmann-Schmeisser, Bergmann, Mannlicher, Roth, Mauser and other one-of-a-kind experimental pistols.

Tonight there is a happy camper in El Paso.

Edward Tinker · 02-14-2003, 09:12 PM

Ron! I think that is so cool! How nice to get something you have wanted like that.
Was the hunt long and difficult?
How did you hear about this new and rare one? Did it walk into your hands, or did you ask, plead and beg for it from a friend

Well done!

Russ · 02-15-2003, 04:41 AM

Ron that is a great find. Congrats

drbuster · 02-15-2003, 06:59 AM

Ron, Fantastic find! How do you get such rare pieces? I was impressed with previous posts of your 1903 acquisition. Does this 1913 have a hold open device? Looking forward to photos. Does anyone know of any 1914 commercials? Any chance of seeing this great piece in March at the Reno show?

Ron Wood · 02-15-2003, 03:48 PM

Ed - The hunt was long and difficult, it took me all these years to find one. I have seen only one other, which was a couple of years ago at the Tulsa show. Unfortunately, someone had already purchased it before I found out about it.

Herb - Yes, it has a hold open device, original not added. I have a 1914 Commercial in the 73,000 range, just about identical to the 1913 except no grip safety so the sear bar is relieved for the thumb safety rather than the grip safety angle. They make a nice pair.

Doubt seriously that I will make the Reno show - too far to drive and Luger purchases have impacted the travel money. It comes down to two choices, go to see the nice Lugers or stay home and buy them.

wterrell · 02-15-2003, 04:33 PM

Congrats, Ron. Nice to hear that your diligence paid off.

Navy · 02-15-2003, 05:05 PM

I am very, very pleased that you have made such a wonderful score. Congratulations and best wishes!

Tom A.

Ron Wood · 02-15-2003, 06:29 PM

Russ, Wes & Tom,
Thanks for the congrats. I feel very fortunate.

02-14-2003, 08:32 PM	#1
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,987 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,090 Times in 1,675 Posts	Jackpot! As many of you know, my collecting interest is Imperial era Lugers. One particularly elusive example has always been the 1913 Commercial with stock lug and grip safety. They fall in the 71,000 serial number range, and as late as 1991 in Jan StillÃ¢??s Ã¢??Imperial LugersÃ¢?Â, only two had been recorded and he estimated only 50 produced. Kenyon states that as many as 1000 may have been made, which was a 1969 estimate based primarily on the then known high and low serial numbers. At any rate, they are rather scarce. Today mine arrived! I was prepared for the worst since the seller described it as only about 90% original finish. It was a GI bring-back in a cut-down commercial Luger holster. You always expect the rating to be exaggerated. When I unwrapped the gun, I found that it is virtually new with only barely discernable wear on the left side of the muzzle band, slight brightening of the leading edge of the receiver rails, and the side plate hump has a nice even holster wear pattern around the edges. The numbers are crisp and sharp with the proper halo around the barrel and receiver Crown/N proofs and around the barrel serial number. The straw is deep and even with only slight lightening at the edges. It is a beautiful example of a rare gun, and I am really pleased to add it to my collection. Pictures will follow, hopefully some time next week. Almost anticlimactic, but still exciting, is the arrival also today of a hard to find, out-of-print near mint copy of Ã¢??Bewaffnung und AusrÃ?Â¼stung der Schweizer Armee seit 1817Ã¢?Â by Christian Reinhart and Michael am Rhyn (last printed in 1975). It is the second volume Ã¢??Faustfeuerwaffen II SelbstladepistolenÃ¢?Â. It is a very well photo illustrated resource on early Swiss Army self-loading handguns and has wonderful pictures of early prototype semi-automatic pistols, to include the 1898 Test Luger, plus Bergmann-Schmeisser, Bergmann, Mannlicher, Roth, Mauser and other one-of-a-kind experimental pistols. Tonight there is a happy camper in El Paso. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-14-2003, 09:12 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	Ron! I think that is so cool! How nice to get something you have wanted like that. Was the hunt long and difficult? How did you hear about this new and rare one? Did it walk into your hands, or did you ask, plead and beg for it from a friend Well done! __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-15-2003, 04:41 AM	#3
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	Ron that is a great find. Congrats __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!

02-15-2003, 03:48 PM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,987 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,090 Times in 1,675 Posts	Ed - The hunt was long and difficult, it took me all these years to find one. I have seen only one other, which was a couple of years ago at the Tulsa show. Unfortunately, someone had already purchased it before I found out about it. Herb - Yes, it has a hold open device, original not added. I have a 1914 Commercial in the 73,000 range, just about identical to the 1913 except no grip safety so the sear bar is relieved for the thumb safety rather than the grip safety angle. They make a nice pair. Doubt seriously that I will make the Reno show - too far to drive and Luger purchases have impacted the travel money. It comes down to two choices, go to see the nice Lugers or stay home and buy them. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-15-2003, 04:33 PM	#6
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Congrats, Ron. Nice to hear that your diligence paid off. __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

02-15-2003, 06:59 AM	#4
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Ron, Fantastic find! How do you get such rare pieces? I was impressed with previous posts of your 1903 acquisition. Does this 1913 have a hold open device? Looking forward to photos. Does anyone know of any 1914 commercials? Any chance of seeing this great piece in March at the Reno show?

02-15-2003, 05:05 PM	#7
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	I am very, very pleased that you have made such a wonderful score. Congratulations and best wishes! Tom A.

02-15-2003, 06:29 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,987 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,090 Times in 1,675 Posts	Russ, Wes & Tom, Thanks for the congrats. I feel very fortunate. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction