Help!!!

Hugh · 04-07-2009, 11:00 AM

I had this Navy rear sight on Gunbroker that I thought is original. However, it has been pointed out to me that the checkering is wrong on the toggle knobs and the elev adj button. It is not a casting, but is machined. I know that the coupling link is not original, but has been altered to fit a leaf main spring. Can the experts please verify for me the authenticity or lack thereof?
Thanks, Hugh

policeluger · 04-07-2009, 08:20 PM

Hugh, not an expert, but as compared to the one original Navy rear sight I do have, on several issues I believe your's is repo, if I can help pleae let me know......

John Sabato · 04-08-2009, 03:28 PM

Hugh, as I recall, there is a photo essay on the differences in the reproduction Navy sight from a real one in the Members Gallery. Hope that it is still there

and that it helps you.

I just checked and it is still there...

Reproductions:

http://reutterwerk.com/lugergallery/...Reproductions/

Genuine Originals:

http://reutterwerk.com/lugergallery/...hts_0/Genuine/

Ron Smith · 04-08-2009, 03:47 PM

Hugh,

I recall a thread on the "Red Flags" on Navy Lugers. One was that the striations on the sides of the sight are exact, with dull ends and even across the bottom on repros. They are uneven in length on originals, and terminate in a point at the center of the cross pin.

The top photo is an original sight.

Hugh · 04-08-2009, 05:23 PM

Thanks, Guys, I have relisted it as a reproduction!

sheepherder · 04-08-2009, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh

...I know that the coupling link is not original, but has been altered to fit a leaf main spring...

It is still a very nicely done rear sight assembly.

I am not knowledgeable in Lugerography...What is the difference between the two coupling links???

alanint · 04-09-2009, 07:19 AM

There are two major main spring designs. The earliest Lugers use a leaf style mainspring and all later lugers use a coil type spring. The coupling links are different as they are the interface between the toggles, which are essentially the same for both designs, and the different types of main srpings.

Lugerdoc · 04-09-2009, 10:21 AM

The M1900 connecting link is shorter and I have these in stock, as well as the standard PO8s. I also have some of these milled German made repro Navy rear links, unblued @$400 each. Lugerdoc

Navy · 04-09-2009, 10:31 AM

Completely bogus.

Tom A

04-07-2009, 11:00 AM	#1
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Help!!! I had this Navy rear sight on Gunbroker that I thought is original. However, it has been pointed out to me that the checkering is wrong on the toggle knobs and the elev adj button. It is not a casting, but is machined. I know that the coupling link is not original, but has been altered to fit a leaf main spring. Can the experts please verify for me the authenticity or lack thereof? Thanks, Hugh Attached Thumbnails Attached Images __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

04-08-2009, 03:28 PM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Hugh, as I recall, there is a photo essay on the differences in the reproduction Navy sight from a real one in the Members Gallery. Hope that it is still there and that it helps you. I just checked and it is still there... Reproductions: http://reutterwerk.com/lugergallery/...Reproductions/ Genuine Originals: http://reutterwerk.com/lugergallery/...hts_0/Genuine/ __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-08-2009, 03:47 PM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hugh, I recall a thread on the "Red Flags" on Navy Lugers. One was that the striations on the sides of the sight are exact, with dull ends and even across the bottom on repros. They are uneven in length on originals, and terminate in a point at the center of the cross pin. The top photo is an original sight. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

04-08-2009, 05:23 PM	#5
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Thanks, Guys, I have relisted it as a reproduction! __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

04-09-2009, 10:21 AM	#8
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	The M1900 connecting link is shorter and I have these in stock, as well as the standard PO8s. I also have some of these milled German made repro Navy rear links, unblued @$400 each. Lugerdoc __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

04-07-2009, 08:20 PM	#2
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Hugh, not an expert, but as compared to the one original Navy rear sight I do have, on several issues I believe your's is repo, if I can help pleae let me know......

04-09-2009, 07:19 AM	#7
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	There are two major main spring designs. The earliest Lugers use a leaf style mainspring and all later lugers use a coil type spring. The coupling links are different as they are the interface between the toggles, which are essentially the same for both designs, and the different types of main srpings.

04-09-2009, 10:31 AM	#9
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Completely bogus. Tom A