"Vet bring back" Battle of E. Germany

Ron Smith · 07-28-2004, 01:58 PM

Here's a rare Luger. He must have taken it from a dead East German General.--SALE PENDING--9MM,NON IMPORT,1917 CHAMBER DATE,STOCK LUG,MATCHING EXCEPT FOR MAGAZINE(UN-NUMBERED,WOODEN BASE)FOUR DIGET SERIAL NO,DOWN SAFETY,SAFETY WRITTEN IN GERMAN,HAS LATER PLASTIC GRIPS,BORE IS V.G+.ABOUT 85+% ORIGIONAL FINISH REMAINS, FRONT GRIP STRAP MISSING MOST OF ORIGIONAL FINISH.NOT A REBUILD,A VET BRING BACK.HAS SOME REAL NICE STRAW,VERY TIGHT MECHANICALLY.A REAL HONEST CONDITION,ORIGIONAL LUGER.SHIPPING $15

the gunman · 07-28-2004, 02:26 PM

A true one of a kind .When does the bidding start !!!

Doug G. · 07-28-2004, 04:03 PM

This gun may very well be original. He states <blockquote>quote:<hr /> NOT A REBUILD,A VET BRING BACK <hr /></blockquote>. it is possible that someone replaced the original grips with shooter East Germans and then either lost or sold the old ones prior to the seller acquiring it? Grips do not make the gun.

George Anderson · 07-28-2004, 04:38 PM

Doug has a point. Last year a fellow came up to my table at the Tulsa show with a byf42 in a Lahti holster with two bakelite mags. It had bullseye grips.

I told him it was East German and I had no interest. He whined a lot about it being a family gun. I looked at it closely. Turns out to be a 98% byf that someone put "new" grips on. I bought it at a fair price and forwarded it to a new home. I was not the first to be offered this gun.

It pays to look carefully and ask alot of questions. Most often it doesn't pay off but sometimes...

Ron Smith · 07-28-2004, 05:51 PM

Hey Guys, I did'nt say it was'nt, but it sure does'nt give that appearance. Looks like any run of the mill VOPO to me. And he does'nt lend anymore info. to the contrary.

Ron

Edward Tinker · 07-28-2004, 06:27 PM

From what I believe (may not be right), I thought some VOPOs were not dipped and thus appear as original? Of course they should be import stamped? <blockquote>quote:<hr />FRONT GRIP STRAP MISSING MOST OF ORIGIONAL FINISH.<hr /></blockquote>Maybe that is why the front strap is so bare?

Vlim · 07-29-2004, 02:50 PM

Another option is Norway.

Those P08s saw almost 50 years of service AFTER WW2 and slipped in through Canada.

This one certainly looks well-used.

07-28-2004, 01:58 PM	#1
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	"Vet bring back" Battle of E. Germany Here's a rare Luger. He must have taken it from a dead East German General.--SALE PENDING--9MM,NON IMPORT,1917 CHAMBER DATE,STOCK LUG,MATCHING EXCEPT FOR MAGAZINE(UN-NUMBERED,WOODEN BASE)FOUR DIGET SERIAL NO,DOWN SAFETY,SAFETY WRITTEN IN GERMAN,HAS LATER PLASTIC GRIPS,BORE IS V.G+.ABOUT 85+% ORIGIONAL FINISH REMAINS, FRONT GRIP STRAP MISSING MOST OF ORIGIONAL FINISH.NOT A REBUILD,A VET BRING BACK.HAS SOME REAL NICE STRAW,VERY TIGHT MECHANICALLY.A REAL HONEST CONDITION,ORIGIONAL LUGER.SHIPPING $15 __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

07-28-2004, 04:03 PM	#3
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	This gun may very well be original. He states </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva"> NOT A REBUILD,A VET BRING BACK </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">. it is possible that someone replaced the original grips with shooter East Germans and then either lost or sold the old ones prior to the seller acquiring it? Grips do not make the gun. __________________ Suppose you were an idiot.....and suppose you were a member of Congress.....But I repeat myself" ~~ Mark Twain

07-28-2004, 05:51 PM	#5
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hey Guys, I did'nt say it was'nt, but it sure does'nt give that appearance. Looks like any run of the mill VOPO to me. And he does'nt lend anymore info. to the contrary. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

07-28-2004, 06:27 PM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	From what I believe (may not be right), I thought *some* VOPOs were not dipped and thus appear as original? Of course they should be import stamped? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">FRONT GRIP STRAP MISSING MOST OF ORIGIONAL FINISH.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Maybe that is why the front strap is so bare? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-28-2004, 02:26 PM	#2
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	A true one of a kind .When does the bidding start !!!

07-28-2004, 04:38 PM	#4
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,769 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Doug has a point. Last year a fellow came up to my table at the Tulsa show with a byf42 in a Lahti holster with two bakelite mags. It had bullseye grips. I told him it was East German and I had no interest. He whined a lot about it being a family gun. I looked at it closely. Turns out to be a 98% byf that someone put "new" grips on. I bought it at a fair price and forwarded it to a new home. I was not the first to be offered this gun. It pays to look carefully and ask alot of questions. Most often it doesn't pay off but sometimes...

07-29-2004, 02:50 PM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	Another option is Norway. Those P08s saw almost 50 years of service AFTER WW2 and slipped in through Canada. This one certainly looks well-used.