It took a while, but....

Vlim · 04-08-2005, 03:45 PM

....my Mauser Parabellum, model 06/73 (or rather 06/72 and a half) is finally up and running again.

For those who don't remember:

I purchased this pistol last year with a busted barrel. Previous owner had done some reloading experiments and managed to get two round stuck in the barrel, deforming it (bulge) beyond repair.

As I happened to know the guy who bought the Mauser parts and leftovers when Mauser quit producing the Parabellum, I sent him a message and he was able to dig up a perfectly correct, new in the white, uninstalled 15cm 7.65mm barrel.

A German gunsmith friend placed the barrel, had it testfired in Cologne / Koeln and reblued the upper cannon. The Koln test resulted in an extra Eagle-N proof on the left side of the receiver.

Can't wait to take it to the range and test it myself.

mauro · 04-08-2005, 05:21 PM

Well done Gerben!!
Ciao

Rod WMG · 04-08-2005, 07:20 PM

Very nice!

unspellable · 04-09-2005, 01:34 PM

Tell me about the grips. They look different.

Vlim · 04-09-2005, 02:11 PM

Hi,

The grips have been coated with a clear varnish by the previous owner. That makes them look pretty shiny, especially with flashlight photography.

Let's just say the guy was full of not too good ideas

the gunman · 04-09-2005, 03:12 PM

Congratulationd Gerben you sure waited a long time for this one . Im sure you will enjoy it.
Going to be the envy of the club.

Vlim · 04-09-2005, 04:08 PM

Hi Richie,

Thanks. And if I don't hit anything, I can at least poke holes in the target without moving, barrel is long enough...

unspellable · 04-09-2005, 04:19 PM

What was this chambered for before the rebarrel? I am thinking there may be a difference in the 9mm and 7.65mm recoil springs as in the vintage Lugers.

Vlim · 04-10-2005, 09:20 AM

Hi,

This was a 7.65mm para or .30 luger version and still is.

I believe the Mauser Parabellum can be used with the same spring. Some German companies sell loose 7.65 and 9mm barrel/receiver combo's so that people may fire both calibers with the same pistol.

Personally I'd expect a slightly stronger spring in a 9mm outfit. But the Wolff replacement spring I got a while ago, also mentioned both 7.65 and 9mm support.... I guess it's not an exact science

Ron Smith · 04-10-2005, 10:09 AM

Gerben,

Congratulations! It's always nice to put one back to original. NICE pistol.
Ron

Vlim · 04-10-2005, 10:28 AM

Hi Ron,

Thanks. I figured that with original factory parts and a German proofing session this is about as close to original as I could get

I'm still fondling it

unspellable · 04-10-2005, 02:49 PM

The DWM drawings for the vintage Lugers show the same spring for both calibers in the "Old Model" (flat recoil spring) and two different springs for the New Model (Coiled spring). I suspect that with the change in recoil springs the 9 mm load was perked up a bit.

I've sometimes thought the 9 mm Glisenti cartridge was just the 9 mm Parabellum as loaded pre spring change. Apparently the Glisenti pistol was first chambered for the 7.65 mm parabellum.

Ron Smith · 04-10-2005, 02:51 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by G. van Vlimmeren
Hi Ron,

Thanks. I figured that with original factory parts and a German proofing session this is about as close to original as I could get

Quote:

[i]I'm still fondling it

wterrell · 04-10-2005, 06:33 PM

The clear varnish can be removed without any damage to the grips.

Vlim · 04-11-2005, 12:36 PM

Hi Wes,

Sounds interesting.
What would you suggest?

wterrell · 04-11-2005, 02:57 PM

Go down to your local hardware store and ask for varnish remover. There should be several spirits that will safely remove the varnish but leave the stain unchanged. Be sure that it is not varnish & stain remover. Whatever you purchase, use it on a test piece of varnished & stained wood prior to using it on your grips.

I would not be afraid to use acetone but will not immediately recommend it without experimentation on a stained & varnished piece of wood first.

Ron Wood · 04-11-2005, 06:43 PM

I used acetone to remove brown paint from set of grips, and it did not change the color of the underlying wood. They were 1906 grips, so the dark color of the wood was from age and oil (and probably 80-odd years of accumulated hand grime) rather than a stain.

JuergenG · 04-12-2005, 08:36 AM

Gerben,
nice work.
Was it done by Werle ?
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Juergen

Vlim · 04-12-2005, 03:55 PM

Hi Juergen,

It was done by Stabe company in Bochum, Germany. With the barrel kindly supplied by Holger Veh of 'Teuto-Arms'.

04-08-2005, 03:45 PM	#1
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,034 Thanks: 1,020 Thanked 3,882 Times in 1,186 Posts	It took a while, but.... ....my Mauser Parabellum, model 06/73 (or rather 06/72 and a half) is finally up and running again. For those who don't remember: I purchased this pistol last year with a busted barrel. Previous owner had done some reloading experiments and managed to get two round stuck in the barrel, deforming it (bulge) beyond repair. As I happened to know the guy who bought the Mauser parts and leftovers when Mauser quit producing the Parabellum, I sent him a message and he was able to dig up a perfectly correct, new in the white, uninstalled 15cm 7.65mm barrel. A German gunsmith friend placed the barrel, had it testfired in Cologne / Koeln and reblued the upper cannon. The Koln test resulted in an extra Eagle-N proof on the left side of the receiver. Can't wait to take it to the range and test it myself.

04-08-2005, 05:21 PM	#2
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Well done Gerben!! Ciao __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

04-09-2005, 01:34 PM	#4
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 10 Posts	grips Tell me about the grips. They look different.

04-10-2005, 10:09 AM	#10
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Gerben, Congratulations! It's always nice to put one back to original. NICE pistol. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

04-10-2005, 02:49 PM	#12
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 10 Posts	recoil springs The DWM drawings for the vintage Lugers show the same spring for both calibers in the "Old Model" (flat recoil spring) and two different springs for the New Model (Coiled spring). I suspect that with the change in recoil springs the 9 mm load was perked up a bit. I've sometimes thought the 9 mm Glisenti cartridge was just the 9 mm Parabellum as loaded pre spring change. Apparently the Glisenti pistol was first chambered for the 7.65 mm parabellum.

04-08-2005, 07:20 PM	#3
Rod WMG User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Edge of Texas Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Very nice!

04-09-2005, 02:11 PM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,034 Thanks: 1,020 Thanked 3,882 Times in 1,186 Posts	Hi, The grips have been coated with a clear varnish by the previous owner. That makes them look pretty shiny, especially with flashlight photography. Let's just say the guy was full of not too good ideas

04-09-2005, 03:12 PM	#6
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Congratulationd Gerben you sure waited a long time for this one . Im sure you will enjoy it. Going to be the envy of the club.

04-09-2005, 04:08 PM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,034 Thanks: 1,020 Thanked 3,882 Times in 1,186 Posts	Hi Richie, Thanks. And if I don't hit anything, I can at least poke holes in the target without moving, barrel is long enough...

04-09-2005, 04:19 PM	#8
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 10 Posts	What was this chambered for before the rebarrel? I am thinking there may be a difference in the 9mm and 7.65mm recoil springs as in the vintage Lugers.

04-10-2005, 09:20 AM	#9
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,034 Thanks: 1,020 Thanked 3,882 Times in 1,186 Posts	Hi, This was a 7.65mm para or .30 luger version and still is. I believe the Mauser Parabellum can be used with the same spring. Some German companies sell loose 7.65 and 9mm barrel/receiver combo's so that people may fire both calibers with the same pistol. Personally I'd expect a slightly stronger spring in a 9mm outfit. But the Wolff replacement spring I got a while ago, also mentioned both 7.65 and 9mm support.... I guess it's not an exact science

04-10-2005, 10:28 AM	#11
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,034 Thanks: 1,020 Thanked 3,882 Times in 1,186 Posts	Hi Ron, Thanks. I figured that with original factory parts and a German proofing session this is about as close to original as I could get I'm still fondling it

04-10-2005, 06:33 PM	#14
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The clear varnish can be removed without any damage to the grips. __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

04-11-2005, 12:36 PM	#15
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,034 Thanks: 1,020 Thanked 3,882 Times in 1,186 Posts	Hi Wes, Sounds interesting. What would you suggest?

04-11-2005, 02:57 PM	#16
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Go down to your local hardware store and ask for varnish remover. There should be several spirits that will safely remove the varnish but leave the stain unchanged. Be sure that it is not varnish & stain remover. Whatever you purchase, use it on a test piece of varnished & stained wood prior to using it on your grips. I would not be afraid to use acetone but will not immediately recommend it without experimentation on a stained & varnished piece of wood first. __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

04-11-2005, 06:43 PM	#17
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,090 Times in 1,675 Posts	I used acetone to remove brown paint from set of grips, and it did not change the color of the underlying wood. They were 1906 grips, so the dark color of the wood was from age and oil (and probably 80-odd years of accumulated hand grime) rather than a stain. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

04-12-2005, 08:36 AM	#18
JuergenG User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 154 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Gerben, nice work. Was it done by Werle ? You may be interested in these egun-Auctions, too: http://www.egunner.de/market/item.php?id=336211 http://www.egunner.de/market/item.php?id=415811 http://www.egunner.de/market/item.php?id=411718 http://www.egunner.de/market/item.php?id=427408 http://www.egunner.de/market/item.php?id=419940 http://www.egunner.de/market/item.php?id=419940 http://www.egunner.de/market/item.php?id=415450 http://www.egunner.de/market/item.php?id=430950 Juergen

04-12-2005, 03:55 PM	#19
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,034 Thanks: 1,020 Thanked 3,882 Times in 1,186 Posts	Hi Juergen, It was done by Stabe company in Bochum, Germany. With the barrel kindly supplied by Holger Veh of 'Teuto-Arms'.