Problem with P08 - Page 2

Luger008 · 01-29-2010, 06:02 PM

7th_son,
all countries have their laws and there's nothing wrong with that. You do not need to ship your Luger out of country, but just to the nearest gunsmith or maybe to a friend who is familiar with that. You can also try to do it yourself, but be careful to not break something.
Danko

7th_son · 01-29-2010, 07:20 PM

Is this possible, that this problem is broke part of locking bolt or something different, but by this hole?

Bolt of my p08 block in the same position like on this photo

Lugerdoc · 01-30-2010, 10:17 AM

It's possiblable that your center toggle axel has drifted out of position (broken retaining pin) and is preventing the toggle from fully closing. Looks like a nice Dutch holster in Photo. TH

Vlim · 01-30-2010, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Looks like a nice Dutch holster in Photo

Portuguese, actually

Personally I think it is generally a bad idea to discuss illegally owned fire arms on public forums like this. Not only does the owner disclose more info than he would like, it can also put other posters in a difficult (legal) position.

So if this pistol is illegally owned, I would kindly ask you to remove this thread altogether.

7th_son · 01-30-2010, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugerdoc

[...] center toggle axel [...]

About which part you're talking?

7th_son · 01-30-2010, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim

[...]
Personally I think it is generally a bad idea to discuss illegally owned fire arms on public forums like this. Not only does the owner disclose more info than he would like, it can also put other posters in a difficult (legal) position.

So if this pistol is illegally owned, I would kindly ask you to remove this thread altogether.

No, when i said, that it i bought illegaly? Illegaly is shipping guns and important parts in my country. My p08 i bought legaly.

Thor · 01-30-2010, 12:19 PM

He is talking about part number 7. Your picture makes me think the toggle cannot compress the firing pin spring for some odd reason, like the firing pin is locked inside the breechblock. From the picture you show to fully closed is when the firing pin spring is compressed. Curious! Can you take both side pictures of your gun with the grips off to check the coupling link (part 9) to make sure it is completely engaged. Curious!

7th_son · 01-30-2010, 12:33 PM

Part number 7 i can remove. Parts 4 & 6 move. Part 9 is free (isn't problem).

Thor · 01-30-2010, 12:43 PM

In your previous posts you said you have the locking bolt removed. Is the little spring that sits under the bolt laying down in the groove or is any part of it popped up of the groove? And part number 7 SHOULD NOT be coming out unless you have removed the very small retaining pin that goes through the top of the left toggle knob.

7th_son · 01-31-2010, 10:43 AM

The part number 19? This part is broken in the half.

mrerick · 01-31-2010, 11:32 AM

Hi,

Part 19 is a leaf spring, curled around toward the front of the pistol, and flat toward the back. It normally slides into a slot and presses down on the sear.

Is the front part of this leaf spring missing?

It's possible that it's jammed behind the sear (part 19). Can you move or remove the sear?

The sear is held in place by a short leaf spring that closes a half circle and holds it against a pin in the frame.

Marc

7th_son · 01-31-2010, 11:41 AM

Yes, front part of spring. Sear bar removed. On the previous site i wrote parts, which were removing

FNorm · 01-31-2010, 11:47 AM

Is it possible that part #9 is jammed in the magazine well, or behind part #22?

When I'm putting a Luger back together, I put the barrel/receiver group upside down on the desk. Part 9 to the rear. Then slide the frame over the receiver as far as it will go. Next I bring it all upright,At this point #9 is behind # 22. Ease the receiver forward until part #9 falls in front of part 22, then back. Everything seats and I can put the side plate #39 in place.

7th_son · 01-31-2010, 12:35 PM

Part 9 is free-moves, so i think it isn't problem.

01-30-2010, 10:17 AM	#23
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	It's possiblable that your center toggle axel has drifted out of position (broken retaining pin) and is preventing the toggle from fully closing. Looks like a nice Dutch holster in Photo. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

01-30-2010, 12:19 PM	#27
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	He is talking about part number 7. Your picture makes me think the toggle cannot compress the firing pin spring for some odd reason, like the firing pin is locked inside the breechblock. From the picture you show to fully closed is when the firing pin spring is compressed. Curious! Can you take both side pictures of your gun with the grips off to check the coupling link (part 9) to make sure it is completely engaged. Curious! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

01-30-2010, 12:43 PM	#29
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	In your previous posts you said you have the locking bolt removed. Is the little spring that sits under the bolt laying down in the groove or is any part of it popped up of the groove? And part number 7 SHOULD NOT be coming out unless you have removed the very small retaining pin that goes through the top of the left toggle knob. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

01-31-2010, 11:32 AM	#31
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Part 19 Hi, Part 19 is a leaf spring, curled around toward the front of the pistol, and flat toward the back. It normally slides into a slot and presses down on the sear. Is the front part of this leaf spring missing? It's possible that it's jammed behind the sear (part 19). Can you move or remove the sear? The sear is held in place by a short leaf spring that closes a half circle and holds it against a pin in the frame. Marc

01-31-2010, 12:35 PM	#34
7th_son User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Part 9 is free-moves, so i think it isn't problem. Last edited by 7th_son; 01-31-2010 at 01:57 PM. Reason: sorry!!!!!

01-29-2010, 06:02 PM	#21
Luger008 User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	7th_son, all countries have their laws and there's nothing wrong with that. You do not need to ship your Luger out of country, but just to the nearest gunsmith or maybe to a friend who is familiar with that. You can also try to do it yourself, but be careful to not break something. Danko

01-29-2010, 07:20 PM	#22
7th_son User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is this possible, that this problem is broke part of locking bolt or something different, but by this hole? Bolt of my p08 block in the same position like on this photo Last edited by 7th_son; 01-30-2010 at 10:00 AM. Reason: photo

01-30-2010, 12:33 PM	#28
7th_son User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Part number 7 i can remove. Parts 4 & 6 move. Part 9 is free (isn't problem).

01-31-2010, 10:43 AM	#30
7th_son User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The part number 19? This part is broken in the half.

01-31-2010, 11:41 AM	#32
7th_son User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes, front part of spring. Sear bar removed. On the previous site i wrote parts, which were removing

01-31-2010, 11:47 AM	#33
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Is it possible that part #9 is jammed in the magazine well, or behind part #22? When I'm putting a Luger back together, I put the barrel/receiver group upside down on the desk. Part 9 to the rear. Then slide the frame over the receiver as far as it will go. Next I bring it all upright,At this point #9 is behind # 22. Ease the receiver forward until part #9 falls in front of part 22, then back. Everything seats and I can put the side plate #39 in place.