HK Grips On Auction...

Pete Ebbink · 06-08-2003, 12:15 PM

Don't think these look right...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2178414174

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Ron Wood · 06-08-2003, 12:32 PM

I can't see any checkering. Looks like the ribbed Russian or East German replacements to me. I think you observed the same thing and your comment is a bit tongue-in-cheek. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Pete Ebbink · 06-08-2003, 12:39 PM

Hello Ron,

I would have used an icon but we do not have one with "tongue in cheek".

The backside of these grips did not look correct, either. A little pricey at $ 150.00, wouldn't you say...?

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Frank · 06-08-2003, 01:27 PM

I think John D. would snap these right up!!

They are post war USSR plastic grips. The pair may be worth $25 or so. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> I hope no one gets taken!!!!

John D. · 06-09-2003, 08:28 AM

Sheeshhh - and I got SOOO EXCITED by seeing a new HK thread...

But, Frank & Ron are right - that those grips sure aren't HK grips - 'less they were made on a Monday AM, after a LOOOOONG weekend at "Octoberfest"

John Sabato · 06-09-2003, 11:13 AM

I sent a note to the seller telling them that they are inexpensive Russian replacement grips that they used on captured German Lugers..not Kreighoff...

I also advised that they are worth about $20 on today's market. We shall see if the auction ad changes or gets relisted...

Roadkill · 07-06-2003, 04:13 PM

How bout these?

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...category=15503

rk

Ron Wood · 07-06-2003, 05:14 PM

I can't tell from the picture for sure...are they black or brown? I am certainly not HK knowledgable, but they look like Ritzmann (sp?) to me.

lugerholsterrepair · 07-06-2003, 05:30 PM

Ron, Didn't the Ritzman(SP?) grips have writing on the back? If these turn out to be original I need a pair...I have an S code Krieghoff without any grips. Probably should have the wood not the plastic but all I ever see are the plastic Krieg grips. Jerry Burney

Ron Wood · 07-06-2003, 05:49 PM

Beats me, Jerry. I was kind of going by what appears to be the brown color and what looks like authentic good quality. HKs are about 30 years too "new" for me to know the fine details! I had an eary S code once upon a time with wood grips. Kinda wish I still had it, but it went as part trade for a 1906 Bulgarian, which is ever so much more interesting. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Here are a pair of brown Krieghoff grips Randy Bessler has for sale for $250.

lugerholsterrepair · 07-06-2003, 06:24 PM

Ron, Thanks...I was kinda hoping to get by for a little less than what Randy is asking. I am certainly not in any hurry as I know they are available in this, what I consider to be high, price range. Maybe I will get lucky somewhere...Thanks my Friend, Jerry Burney

Pete Ebbink · 07-07-2003, 12:20 AM

Hello Ron & Jerry,

I think these are the later brown, coarse checkered grips HK used on lugers after they stopped using the Ritzmann grips...(going from memory, around the late S-codes and in 1936-37...).

It is also rumored that these brown coarse grips were made by the same supplier as the Black Widow grips Mauser started using later...think this is mentioned in the R. Gibson book, but I cannot check since I am away from my books for the next 1-2 days...

I have reposted my photos of the Ritzmann grips below :

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

06-08-2003, 12:15 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	HK Grips On Auction... Don't think these look right... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2178414174 Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

06-08-2003, 12:32 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,034 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,237 Times in 1,718 Posts	I can't see any checkering. Looks like the ribbed Russian or East German replacements to me. I think you observed the same thing and your comment is a bit tongue-in-cheek. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-09-2003, 11:13 AM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	I sent a note to the seller telling them that they are inexpensive Russian replacement grips that they used on captured German Lugers..not Kreighoff... I also advised that they are worth about $20 on today's market. We shall see if the auction ad changes or gets relisted... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

07-06-2003, 05:14 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,034 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,237 Times in 1,718 Posts	I can't tell from the picture for sure...are they black or brown? I am certainly not HK knowledgable, but they look like Ritzmann (sp?) to me. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-06-2003, 05:30 PM	#9
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,991 Thanked 3,129 Times in 1,437 Posts	Ron, Didn't the Ritzman(SP?) grips have writing on the back? If these turn out to be original I need a pair...I have an S code Krieghoff without any grips. Probably should have the wood not the plastic but all I ever see are the plastic Krieg grips. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-08-2003, 12:39 PM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Ron, I would have used an icon but we do not have one with "tongue in cheek". The backside of these grips did not look correct, either. A little pricey at $ 150.00, wouldn't you say...? Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

06-08-2003, 01:27 PM	#4
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 164 Times in 87 Posts	I think John D. would snap these right up!! They are post war USSR plastic grips. The pair may be worth $25 or so. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> I hope no one gets taken!!!!

06-09-2003, 08:28 AM	#5
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Sheeshhh - and I got SOOO EXCITED by seeing a new HK thread... But, Frank & Ron are right - that those grips sure aren't HK grips - 'less they were made on a Monday AM, after a LOOOOONG weekend at "Octoberfest"

07-06-2003, 04:13 PM	#7
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	How bout these? http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...category=15503 rk

07-06-2003, 05:49 PM	#10
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,034 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,237 Times in 1,718 Posts	Beats me, Jerry. I was kind of going by what appears to be the brown color and what looks like authentic good quality. HKs are about 30 years too "new" for me to know the fine details! I had an eary S code once upon a time with wood grips. Kinda wish I still had it, but it went as part trade for a 1906 Bulgarian, which is ever so much more interesting. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Here are a pair of brown Krieghoff grips Randy Bessler has for sale for $250. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-06-2003, 06:24 PM	#11
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,991 Thanked 3,129 Times in 1,437 Posts	Ron, Thanks...I was kinda hoping to get by for a little less than what Randy is asking. I am certainly not in any hurry as I know they are available in this, what I consider to be high, price range. Maybe I will get lucky somewhere...Thanks my Friend, Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

07-07-2003, 12:20 AM	#12
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Ron & Jerry, I think these are the later brown, coarse checkered grips HK used on lugers after they stopped using the Ritzmann grips...(going from memory, around the late S-codes and in 1936-37...). It is also rumored that these brown coarse grips were made by the same supplier as the Black Widow grips Mauser started using later...think this is mentioned in the R. Gibson book, but I cannot check since I am away from my books for the next 1-2 days... I have reposted my photos of the Ritzmann grips below : Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

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