Schmeisser Magazine Followers

Aaron · 10-31-2001, 12:31 AM

In my collection of Luger magazines, I have noticed at least four different variations in Schmeisser follower buttons. To see these variations, go to:

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/LugerMag.JPG

#1. Large button fully checkered

#2. Large button, checkered with outside ring

#3. Same as #2, but slightly different checkering pattern

#4. Very small checkered button, very difficult to retract without a loading tool.

Any comments on these variations?

John Sabato · 10-31-2001, 10:42 AM

I only own one of these mags, but I wish I could afford a dozen... they are GREAT magazines and feed wonderfully.

My button is of the #2 variety.

I can only speculate that the differences were based on the preference of the individual gunsmith at the time of manufacture and the availability of checkering tools...

regards,

John Sabato

Aaron · 10-31-2001, 06:15 PM

#1: Small Haenel logo on back, near bottom, no police mark.

#2: Large Haenel logo on left side, early Police eagle on mag bottom (1923-1933).

#3: Large Haenel logo on left side, E/L next to logo.

#4: Small Haenel logo on back, near bottom, Sunburst/S on mag bottom (Sonder Polizei).

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/Haenel.JPG

Aaron · 10-31-2001, 06:20 PM

Bottom of mag #1, showing only a tiny Haenel script logo.

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/Haenel1.JPG

Aaron · 10-31-2001, 06:23 PM

Bottom of mag #2 shows only the early Police eagle.

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/Haenel2.JPG

Aaron · 10-31-2001, 06:25 PM

bottom of mag #3 shows only serial number and number one.

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/Haenel3.JPG

Aaron · 10-31-2001, 06:28 PM

Bottom of mag #4 shows sserial number, numeral 1, and sunburst over S.

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/Haenel4.JPG

John Sabato · 11-01-2001, 09:52 AM

Don · 11-01-2001, 11:10 PM

Aaron, I don't know if this helps or not, but for what it's worth, I have 5 Schmeisser mags, and they all appear to have the #2 or #3 follower button. However, I think that they're all later models because they have a square bottom are attached with only one pin in the center of the bottom. Only one has the Nazi eagle, the rest just have "2" and a serial no.

11-02-2001, 07:55 AM

Little know fact: The Schmeisser mag follower are also eagle/37 marked on the left side. Your first issue Schmeisser mag (the one on left) has the correct fully checkered follower button, but I question the small button on the mag on the right; it looks like a poor replacement to me. I've never seen an original this small. There were also side marked Schmeissers that were blued, in addition to the nickel ones shown. Tom h.

Don · 11-02-2001, 06:21 PM

I have a beautiful WWI mag, with new wood bottom by GT. Only problem is the follower button & pin have detached from the follower. I guess you remove bottom & spring and slide the follower down so that the hole in the follower aligns with the little round hole near the end of the mag. Here's where I need help: Apparently I need to strike the end of the pin and brad it to stay in place. Anybody able to tell me how to do this without tearing up beautiful mag? Thanks.

G.T. · 11-02-2001, 07:44 PM

Hi Don! The best way,is to remove the pin, bottom, and spring, and then place the mag on a piece of aluminum with the follower button installed and the follower button side down. Then you line up the access hole, (now facing up) with the follower end you are trying to rivet. talk a pin punch, (a small radius on the end helps) and give the end a good tap with a small hammer, the aluminum will keep the checkered side from becoming deformed, yet allows enough support to make the end of the follower button upset and become tight in the follower! If you are uncomfortable with that send it to me and I'll give it a whack! till...later...G.T.

G.T. · 11-02-2001, 07:46 PM

Correction; That's take a pin punch.......

Don · 11-03-2001, 09:24 AM

I'll give it a try! And I'm really enjoying the two bottomw I have from you, and hope to end up with a couple more soon! Keep up the good work!

Don · 11-05-2001, 09:59 PM

Your technique worked great! I didn't have a piece of aluminium, so I folded up so aluminum foil and put it on top of an anvil. Worked great! Thanks again.

--Don

G.T. · 11-07-2001, 06:29 PM

10-31-2001, 06:23 PM	#5
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Bottom of Mag #2 Bottom of mag #2 shows only the early Police eagle. http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/Haenel2.JPG

10-31-2001, 06:25 PM	#6
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Bottom of Mag #3 bottom of mag #3 shows only serial number and number one. http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/Haenel3.JPG

10-31-2001, 06:28 PM	#7
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Bottom of Mag #4 Bottom of mag #4 shows sserial number, numeral 1, and sunburst over S. http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/Haenel4.JPG

11-01-2001, 09:52 AM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Aaron, thanks much for a fine photo layout! (EOM)

11-01-2001, 11:10 PM	#9
Don User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 146 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Schmeisser Magazine Followers Aaron, I don't know if this helps or not, but for what it's worth, I have 5 Schmeisser mags, and they all appear to have the #2 or #3 follower button. However, I think that they're all later models because they have a square bottom are attached with only one pin in the center of the bottom. Only one has the Nazi eagle, the rest just have "2" and a serial no.

10-31-2001, 12:31 AM	#1
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Schmeisser Magazine Followers In my collection of Luger magazines, I have noticed at least four different variations in Schmeisser follower buttons. To see these variations, go to: http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/LugerMag.JPG #1. Large button fully checkered #2. Large button, checkered with outside ring #3. Same as #2, but slightly different checkering pattern #4. Very small checkered button, very difficult to retract without a loading tool. Any comments on these variations?

10-31-2001, 10:42 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Great photo Aaron, how about a photo of the complete mags! I only own one of these mags, but I wish I could afford a dozen... they are GREAT magazines and feed wonderfully. My button is of the #2 variety. I can only speculate that the differences were based on the preference of the individual gunsmith at the time of manufacture and the availability of checkering tools... regards, John Sabato

10-31-2001, 06:15 PM	#3
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Photo of Complete Mags as Requested #1: Small Haenel logo on back, near bottom, no police mark. #2: Large Haenel logo on left side, early Police eagle on mag bottom (1923-1933). #3: Large Haenel logo on left side, E/L next to logo. #4: Small Haenel logo on back, near bottom, Sunburst/S on mag bottom (Sonder Polizei). http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/Haenel.JPG

10-31-2001, 06:20 PM	#4
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Photo of Complete Mags as Requested Bottom of mag #1, showing only a tiny Haenel script logo. http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/Haenel1.JPG

11-02-2001, 07:55 AM	#10
tom h Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Schmeisser Magazine Followers Little know fact: The Schmeisser mag follower are also eagle/37 marked on the left side. Your first issue Schmeisser mag (the one on left) has the correct fully checkered follower button, but I question the small button on the mag on the right; it looks like a poor replacement to me. I've never seen an original this small. There were also side marked Schmeissers that were blued, in addition to the nickel ones shown. Tom h.

11-02-2001, 06:21 PM	#11
Don User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 146 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Speaking of Mags I have a beautiful WWI mag, with new wood bottom by GT. Only problem is the follower button & pin have detached from the follower. I guess you remove bottom & spring and slide the follower down so that the hole in the follower aligns with the little round hole near the end of the mag. Here's where I need help: Apparently I need to strike the end of the pin and brad it to stay in place. Anybody able to tell me how to do this without tearing up beautiful mag? Thanks.

11-02-2001, 07:44 PM	#12
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,486 Thanks: 1,284 Thanked 3,583 Times in 989 Posts	Re: Speaking of Mags Hi Don! The best way,is to remove the pin, bottom, and spring, and then place the mag on a piece of aluminum with the follower button installed and the follower button side down. Then you line up the access hole, (now facing up) with the follower end you are trying to rivet. talk a pin punch, (a small radius on the end helps) and give the end a good tap with a small hammer, the aluminum will keep the checkered side from becoming deformed, yet allows enough support to make the end of the follower button upset and become tight in the follower! If you are uncomfortable with that send it to me and I'll give it a whack! till...later...G.T.

11-02-2001, 07:46 PM	#13
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,486 Thanks: 1,284 Thanked 3,583 Times in 989 Posts	Re: Speaking of Mags Correction; That's take a pin punch.......

11-03-2001, 09:24 AM	#14
Don User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 146 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Thanks, GT! I'll give it a try! And I'm really enjoying the two bottomw I have from you, and hope to end up with a couple more soon! Keep up the good work!

11-05-2001, 09:59 PM	#15
Don User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 146 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Thanks, GT! Your technique worked great! I didn't have a piece of aluminium, so I folded up so aluminum foil and put it on top of an anvil. Worked great! Thanks again. --Don

11-07-2001, 06:29 PM	#16
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,486 Thanks: 1,284 Thanked 3,583 Times in 989 Posts	Hi Don! I'm happy it worked out for you! till...later....G.T. (EOM)