K Date

Thor · 04-09-2002, 09:00 PM

Got the K today, not entirely correct but for a VOPO I am entirely happy with it. Mechanically excellent and a VG Bore. It is an early variation by serial but it has the set back front sight and NO BUMP. It has those script Ss on darn near every part. I have not been able to put it down all day. The gun was in much better shape that I had thought it would be. Dipped blued but I am going to fix that. O with Dots over it & 37 acceptance stamps, Droop Wing Eagle proof marks and O 37 on the left barrel also. The S/42 is in Script S. I think of the Vopos, the K dates, 41/42 and Police Lugers were the most desirable, at least to me. The price of the others was a little high but I do believe prices of all Lugers is rising, especially the shooter grades. Thor

Herb · 04-09-2002, 09:12 PM

Thorster, are there any distinguishing marks on it that indicates that it is VOPO? Such as added proofs, etc? Where did you find it?

Thor · 04-09-2002, 09:25 PM

the bocksguns.com place, not really on this one, but it was dipped blued, etc, not original finish

Thor · 04-09-2002, 09:33 PM

Meant Brocksguns.com some nice shooters there.

http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/DSCN0025(5).JPG

Dwight Gruber · 04-09-2002, 10:41 PM

04-09-2002, 11:15 PM

Hugh · 04-10-2002, 12:18 AM

WHAT! You're going to work on one of YOUR guns while customers are waiting on theirs?

Thor · 04-10-2002, 12:24 AM

HEy, WHERE"S MY BABBY LUGER! Long Barrel is held for RANSOM!!!!

Thor · 04-10-2002, 12:26 AM

ActuaLLY,that is the extent of it for a while, I am a little under the weather so I wont be working on that K til right before the Luger convention next spring. I might go shoot it though!

Dan Clemons · 04-10-2002, 12:30 AM

Look like you got your money's worth.

Dan

Hugh · 04-10-2002, 12:31 AM

Should get the frames back next week.

Thor · 04-10-2002, 12:35 AM

You should get the long barrel Friday

Thor · 04-10-2002, 12:40 AM

I was lucky getting in first pickins, seldom happens to me! I was lucky, I have wanted a first variation for quite a few years now. Those little script Ses are so cool!

John Sabato · 04-10-2002, 11:10 AM

04-10-2002, 08:11 PM

if you have time,

What needs to be done and what gets "cut" owwww, and etc. Sir?

Ed

Hugh · 04-10-2002, 09:31 PM

1. Cut 1/2" out of the middle of the frame grip and weld back together, grind off stock lug & lanyard loop; clean up and polish weld & grind areas.

2. Cut 1/2" out of the middle of each grip panel, epoxy back together and rechecker; or make new grips.

3. Remove bbl from frame & cut front sight band off end of bbl, this will shorten bbl to approximately 3", turn end of bbl and ream sight band until they are a slip fit, then weld or solder, being sure that sight is aligned properly. Then remount bbl.

4. Shorten mainspring guide to fit frame, either cut proper amount from middle and weld; or cut top off and rebend new hook.

5. Shorten mainspring so that it will fit in frame and still function action correctly.

6. Taper front of frame rails.

7. Grind down toggle knobs until they are width of the frame & rechecker.

8. Shorten magazine and spring to fit frame properly, radius end of mag, weld up bottom of slot for thumb piece which is now openended and re-install bottom by drilling new holes for retaining pin.

9. Put it all together and fire for correct functioning.

10. Fine tune to correct malfunctions.

11.Polish & reblue

After proof reading all of the above, I realize what a job it is and that I am not charging enough! Expect price to increase!

Hugh · 04-10-2002, 09:33 PM

04-10-2002, 09:34 PM

Thor · 04-10-2002, 09:34 PM

you forgot one step Hugh, "Wait two years"

Hugh · 04-11-2002, 12:43 AM

The price one has to pay for a "Prototype" model!

04-09-2002, 09:00 PM	#1
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	K Date Got the K today, not entirely correct but for a VOPO I am entirely happy with it. Mechanically excellent and a VG Bore. It is an early variation by serial but it has the set back front sight and NO BUMP. It has those script Ss on darn near every part. I have not been able to put it down all day. The gun was in much better shape that I had thought it would be. Dipped blued but I am going to fix that. O with Dots over it & 37 acceptance stamps, Droop Wing Eagle proof marks and O 37 on the left barrel also. The S/42 is in Script S. I think of the Vopos, the K dates, 41/42 and Police Lugers were the most desirable, at least to me. The price of the others was a little high but I do believe prices of all Lugers is rising, especially the shooter grades. Thor

04-09-2002, 09:12 PM	#2
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: K Date Thorster, are there any distinguishing marks on it that indicates that it is VOPO? Such as added proofs, etc? Where did you find it?

04-09-2002, 09:25 PM	#3
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: K Date the bocksguns.com place, not really on this one, but it was dipped blued, etc, not original finish

04-09-2002, 09:33 PM	#4
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: K Date Meant Brocksguns.com some nice shooters there. http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/DSCN0025(5).JPG

04-09-2002, 10:41 PM	#5
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,312 Times in 430 Posts	Dang, thats actually pretty nice! (EOM)

04-09-2002, 11:15 PM	#6
66mustang Guest Posts: n/a	looks good Thor (EOM)

04-10-2002, 12:18 AM	#7
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Re: K Date WHAT! You're going to work on one of YOUR guns while customers are waiting on theirs?

04-10-2002, 12:24 AM	#8
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: K Date HEy, WHERE"S MY BABBY LUGER! Long Barrel is held for RANSOM!!!!

04-10-2002, 12:26 AM	#9
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: K Date ActuaLLY,that is the extent of it for a while, I am a little under the weather so I wont be working on that K til right before the Luger convention next spring. I might go shoot it though!

04-10-2002, 12:30 AM	#10
Dan Clemons User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Beautiful Luger in great condition! Look like you got your money's worth. Dan

04-10-2002, 12:31 AM	#11
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Re: K Date Should get the frames back next week.

04-10-2002, 12:35 AM	#12
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: K Date You should get the long barrel Friday

04-10-2002, 12:40 AM	#13
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: Beautiful Luger in great condition! I was lucky getting in first pickins, seldom happens to me! I was lucky, I have wanted a first variation for quite a few years now. Those little script Ses are so cool!

04-10-2002, 11:10 AM	#14
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	You said that LAST week Hugh! (EOM)

04-10-2002, 08:11 PM	#15
66mustang Guest Posts: n/a	Okay Hugh, walk me through the steps for a baby if you have time, What needs to be done and what gets "cut" owwww, and etc. Sir? Ed

04-10-2002, 09:31 PM	#16
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Re: Okay Hugh, walk me through the steps for a baby 1. Cut 1/2" out of the middle of the frame grip and weld back together, grind off stock lug & lanyard loop; clean up and polish weld & grind areas. 2. Cut 1/2" out of the middle of each grip panel, epoxy back together and rechecker; or make new grips. 3. Remove bbl from frame & cut front sight band off end of bbl, this will shorten bbl to approximately 3", turn end of bbl and ream sight band until they are a slip fit, then weld or solder, being sure that sight is aligned properly. Then remount bbl. 4. Shorten mainspring guide to fit frame, either cut proper amount from middle and weld; or cut top off and rebend new hook. 5. Shorten mainspring so that it will fit in frame and still function action correctly. 6. Taper front of frame rails. 7. Grind down toggle knobs until they are width of the frame & rechecker. 8. Shorten magazine and spring to fit frame properly, radius end of mag, weld up bottom of slot for thumb piece which is now openended and re-install bottom by drilling new holes for retaining pin. 9. Put it all together and fire for correct functioning. 10. Fine tune to correct malfunctions. 11.Polish & reblue After proof reading all of the above, I realize what a job it is and that I am not charging enough! Expect price to increase!

04-10-2002, 09:33 PM	#17
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	I've been telling Thor that for a year, & he believes me every time

04-10-2002, 09:34 PM	#18
66mustang Guest Posts: n/a	Hey Hugh, more than great description! Thanks

04-11-2002, 12:43 AM	#20
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Thor...... The price one has to pay for a "Prototype" model!