Trommel magazine loader, genuine ?

smokey stover · 07-20-2019, 09:17 PM

Good evening gents, Ive been reading a lot of material about these loaders, and managed to confuse myself a bit.. realized that I could use some expert help to determine if my loader is a repro, or the real Bing loader. Im assuming that the name done with electric pencil has nothing to do with authenticity. Also, it looks to me like a partial crown s at the bottom ? Any information would be appreciated.

Norme · 07-20-2019, 10:08 PM

Looks like the real deal to me, although it may have been refinished. Hard to tell from your photos,
Norm

lugerholsterrepair · 07-21-2019, 10:10 AM

Remove the front pivot screw. It should only be threaded a few turns on the tip.

smokey stover · 07-21-2019, 05:01 PM

I count 5 threads on this

lugerholsterrepair · 07-21-2019, 07:34 PM

Not normal. I wouldn't call it original. This also confirms what I don't like about the seam under the handle. It's too wide and clean. No welds. Just not of the period IMO.

smokey stover · 07-22-2019, 07:38 AM

Thank you very much, Mr. Burney. I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. Not that it makes a difference, but welds can be seen inside the handle. The entire loader has been heavily buffed and blued at some point. That may not be obvious in my photos.

lugerholsterrepair · 07-22-2019, 01:36 PM

Smokey..These can tough to actually pin down but the under the handle seam is a good place to look. Apparently originals were made with a rolled tube hence the seam and welds. The seam is tight enough to prevent a piece of paper being inserted. The welds were fairly evident. Buffing and rebluing an original would not do value any favors to be sure. So even IF this were an original..it would not be more desirable than a good repro IMO. But a guy needs some sort of loader to load drums..an original in excellent shape might run $1200 and a repro a LOT less.

cirelaw · 07-22-2019, 05:57 PM

I recently sold mine with seam for $1600~

07-20-2019, 09:17 PM	#1
smokey stover User Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 10 Thanks: 6 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Trommel magazine loader, genuine ? Good evening gents, Ive been reading a lot of material about these loaders, and managed to confuse myself a bit.. realized that I could use some expert help to determine if my loader is a repro, or the real Bing loader. Im assuming that the name done with electric pencil has nothing to do with authenticity. Also, it looks to me like a partial crown s at the bottom ? Any information would be appreciated. Attached Thumbnails

07-21-2019, 10:10 AM	#3
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Remove the front pivot screw. It should only be threaded a few turns on the tip. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

07-21-2019, 05:01 PM	#4
smokey stover User Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 10 Thanks: 6 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	the pivot screw I count 5 threads on this Attached Thumbnails

07-21-2019, 07:34 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Not normal. I wouldn't call it original. This also confirms what I don't like about the seam under the handle. It's too wide and clean. No welds. Just not of the period IMO. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

07-22-2019, 01:36 PM	#7
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Smokey..These can tough to actually pin down but the under the handle seam is a good place to look. Apparently originals were made with a rolled tube hence the seam and welds. The seam is tight enough to prevent a piece of paper being inserted. The welds were fairly evident. Buffing and rebluing an original would not do value any favors to be sure. So even IF this were an original..it would not be more desirable than a good repro IMO. But a guy needs some sort of loader to load drums..an original in excellent shape might run $1200 and a repro a LOT less. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

07-20-2019, 10:08 PM	#2
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	Looks like the real deal to me, although it may have been refinished. Hard to tell from your photos, Norm

07-22-2019, 07:38 AM	#6
smokey stover User Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 10 Thanks: 6 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Thank you very much, Mr. Burney. I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. Not that it makes a difference, but welds can be seen inside the handle. The entire loader has been heavily buffed and blued at some point. That may not be obvious in my photos.

07-22-2019, 05:57 PM	#8
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I recently sold mine with seam for $1600~