Short Luger stock

IAMWWI · 12-18-2019, 04:33 PM

I have a Luger shoulder stock that is shorter than normal. It is 11 5/8” over all length. The short stock appears to be a very tight dense grain heart walnut. It would fit a 4 inch holster just fine If it had the two loops on the back as artillery holster do. The iron is correct in every way but no number. It is not marked anywhere. I’d like to know anything about it. Could it be for a Finnish M/23, or other country to use with a 4” holster? Any ideas?

DonVoigt · 12-18-2019, 09:36 PM

IMO, you have a hand made copy of a board stock, perhaps intended to be in the Navy length.
The cuts at the neck of the stock are not "normal" for sure; and the inletting for the strap slots are
also different.

IAMWWI · 12-20-2019, 11:30 AM

Thank you
The Navy stock I have is much different and 12 ½" OAL.
I've been at this for 60 years and I recall a article somewhere lost in time referencing a stock and holster made for the 4 inch Luger. It could be home made, and well done. That is possible, but a lot of trouble to go through.

sheepherder · 12-20-2019, 11:55 AM

Perhaps it is Billy Barty's short-stock. For use with his 4" artillery Luger.

Lugerdoc · 12-20-2019, 12:03 PM

To my knowledge, no stock is ATF legal with a 4" barreled luger. One might make a case for the 5000 commerical 7.65mm lugers sold to Finland in 1923 with surplus WW1 used LPO8 (Artillery) stocks. I ocasionally see these with Finish made holsters attached. TH

HerrKaiser · 12-20-2019, 12:48 PM

Tom,

Wouldn't the Benke-Thiemann stocks also be acceptable to use on commercial Lugers even with 5" or shorter barrels?

DonVoigt · 12-20-2019, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugerdoc

To my knowledge, no stock is ATF legal with a 4" barreled luger. One might make a case for the 5000 commerical 7.65mm lugers sold to Finland in 1923 with surplus WW1 used LPO8 (Artillery) stocks. I ocasionally see these with Finish made holsters attached. TH

Finn lugers are legal with the artillery stock.
There is an ATF letter to that effect.

I believe this is what the OP refers to in post # 3.

12-18-2019, 04:33 PM	#1
IAMWWI New User Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Short Luger stock I have a Luger shoulder stock that is shorter than normal. It is 11 5/8” over all length. The short stock appears to be a very tight dense grain heart walnut. It would fit a 4 inch holster just fine If it had the two loops on the back as artillery holster do. The iron is correct in every way but no number. It is not marked anywhere. I’d like to know anything about it. Could it be for a Finnish M/23, or other country to use with a 4” holster? Any ideas? Attached Images

12-18-2019, 09:36 PM	#2
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	IMO, you have a hand made copy of a board stock, perhaps intended to be in the Navy length. The cuts at the neck of the stock are not "normal" for sure; and the inletting for the strap slots are also different. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

12-20-2019, 11:30 AM	#3
IAMWWI New User Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Short Luger stock Thank you The Navy stock I have is much different and 12 ½" OAL. I've been at this for 60 years and I recall a article somewhere lost in time referencing a stock and holster made for the 4 inch Luger. It could be home made, and well done. That is possible, but a lot of trouble to go through.

12-20-2019, 11:55 AM	#4
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,181 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,438 Times in 2,327 Posts	Perhaps it is Billy Barty's short-stock. For use with his 4" artillery Luger. __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

12-20-2019, 12:03 PM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	To my knowledge, no stock is ATF legal with a 4" barreled luger. One might make a case for the 5000 commerical 7.65mm lugers sold to Finland in 1923 with surplus WW1 used LPO8 (Artillery) stocks. I ocasionally see these with Finish made holsters attached. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

12-20-2019, 12:48 PM	#6
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 800 Thanks: 750 Thanked 793 Times in 376 Posts	Tom, Wouldn't the Benke-Thiemann stocks also be acceptable to use on commercial Lugers even with 5" or shorter barrels? __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22