1917 9mm DWM Luger

coffeee · 02-11-2004, 10:57 PM

99.9% blue Origional 1917 9mm DWM Luger with all matching numbers including two matching clips and the origional matching holster with stripper tool. I have had a number of offers to buy this gun yet I do not know what I should be looking for it. Deos anyone know how nuch it is worth, all I know is that the blue book says add 100% to the value of the gun with two matching clips...Can you help me?

Edward Tinker · 02-11-2004, 11:55 PM

Coffeee,

I am sure there are others with a better judgement of price. If as you state for condition, and no offense, but it hasn't been reblued at some point, there are several things that will bring the price up.

1. 99% blueing is awful damn good

2. Two matching mags is a real selling point

3. Original matching holster....

But still, value is very hard to judge without lots of good pictures, can you provide that?

We can help if you can scan in or take digital pictures, you are welcome to send them to me and I'll post them for you.

Ed

coffeee · 02-12-2004, 12:10 PM

magazines it is then! I am going to sell the gun, but at this moment I am trying to establish the guns real value......Do you think you can help?

coffeee · 02-12-2004, 12:12 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Edward Tinker:
Coffeee,

I am sure there are others with a better judgement of price. If as you state for condition, and no offense, but it hasn't been reblued at some point, there are several things that will bring the price up.

1. 99% blueing is awful damn good

2. Two matching mags is a real selling point

3. Original matching holster....Ed<hr /></blockquote>Ed I will work on getting you some nice pitures of the gun as soon as I can get my hands on a digital camera.....

Thanks for taking the time to reply...

Frank · 02-12-2004, 01:46 PM

Coffeee, the magazine/clip rule is pretty clear!!

Clips feed magazines; magazines feed weapons!!

Hope this helps a bit!

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policeluger · 02-12-2004, 03:06 PM

I have seen guns sell, similar too your discription, for as much as $2,300.00....this is not saying yours is worth that, not with out studying the gun, this is not those East German reworks and someones back yard gunsmith put togethers, but the real deals.

coffeee · 02-12-2004, 06:39 PM

Thanks for the reply policeluger, this gun has been in the family for a long time, so its the real deal..........besides who was reblueing guns way back then.......

Are you saying that if the gun is as I have described it is worth around $2300

policeluger · 02-12-2004, 07:03 PM

Check some of the retailing dealers lists and compare, I can tell you that if the gun is as clean as you say, and it was offered on some of the bigger dealers lists, a complete rig, all matching could go even higher, perhaps by a few hundred. Then again if a collector is a bit short on funds and is looking for the best deal he can find, and the seller wanted out fast, it could go for a bit less...horse trading I guess. When you get it all setteled out, and can provide a few pictures, I may be interested, thanks...and remember I am going only on your discription, and with respect, I am not sure if you are 100% correct. Can't tell you how many time thing like this turn out very different then the way they started....have a good day

Big Norm · 02-12-2004, 08:29 PM

Keep us all informed. You might be able to sell it here to a member without the problems of expenses and time incurred by selling it someplace else. I may be interested myself.
Big Norm

G.W. Gill · 02-13-2004, 01:18 AM

Mr. Coffee, If this pistol has been in your family for a long time I would advise you to reconsider the sale. There could be a feeling of emotional emptiness that will awaken sooner or even years from now. I speak from experience. My Great Grandfathers broken gold watch in trade for that ellusive ... The deal was good. The money also was great. But it was not a good investement. Please reconsider. Don't consider it as a loss not to sell. Think of it as preserving family heritige. You CAN'T retrieve that. I emphasize YOU CAN'T RETRIEVE HERITERAGE.

Adam · 02-13-2004, 01:23 AM

I agree, if it has been in your family that long, you will miss it. I too have sold things that had no "meaning" , only to later feel as if I had somehow betrayed myself or my family members.

G.W. Gill · 02-13-2004, 01:29 AM

Thanks Adam for the concurring opinion. Maybe Mr. Coffee would share some pictures and a story of his family treasure with us.

Russ · 02-13-2004, 11:24 AM

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02-11-2004, 10:57 PM	#1
coffeee User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: AZ Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1917 9mm DWM Luger 99.9% blue Origional 1917 9mm DWM Luger with all matching numbers including two matching clips and the origional matching holster with stripper tool. I have had a number of offers to buy this gun yet I do not know what I should be looking for it. Deos anyone know how nuch it is worth, all I know is that the blue book says add 100% to the value of the gun with two matching clips...Can you help me?

02-11-2004, 11:55 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,924 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,518 Times in 2,087 Posts	Coffeee, I am sure there are others with a better judgement of price. If as you state for condition, and no offense, but it hasn't been reblued at some point, there are several things that will bring the price up. 1. 99% blueing is awful damn good 2. Two matching mags is a real selling point 3. Original matching holster.... But still, value is very hard to judge without lots of good pictures, can you provide that? We can help if you can scan in or take digital pictures, you are welcome to send them to me and I'll post them for you. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-12-2004, 12:12 PM	#4
coffeee User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: AZ Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Edward Tinker: <strong>Coffeee, I am sure there are others with a better judgement of price. If as you state for condition, and no offense, but it hasn't been reblued at some point, there are several things that will bring the price up. 1. 99% blueing is awful damn good 2. Two matching mags is a real selling point 3. Original matching holster....Ed</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Ed I will work on getting you some nice pitures of the gun as soon as I can get my hands on a digital camera..... Thanks for taking the time to reply...

02-13-2004, 11:24 AM	#13
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	TAC You are still invited to come and live over here in Oregon. (if we can put up with all the Californins we can get along with anyone) <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" /> Russ __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!

02-12-2004, 12:10 PM	#3
coffeee User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: AZ Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	magazines it is then! I am going to sell the gun, but at this moment I am trying to establish the guns real value......Do you think you can help?

02-12-2004, 01:46 PM	#5
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Coffeee, the magazine/clip rule is pretty clear!! Clips feed magazines; magazines feed weapons!! Hope this helps a bit! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

02-12-2004, 03:06 PM	#6
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	I have seen guns sell, similar too your discription, for as much as $2,300.00....this is not saying yours is worth that, not with out studying the gun, this is not those East German reworks and someones back yard gunsmith put togethers, but the real deals.

02-12-2004, 06:39 PM	#7
coffeee User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: AZ Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the reply policeluger, this gun has been in the family for a long time, so its the real deal..........besides who was reblueing guns way back then....... Are you saying that if the gun is as I have described it is worth around $2300

02-12-2004, 07:03 PM	#8
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Check some of the retailing dealers lists and compare, I can tell you that if the gun is as clean as you say, and it was offered on some of the bigger dealers lists, a complete rig, all matching could go even higher, perhaps by a few hundred. Then again if a collector is a bit short on funds and is looking for the best deal he can find, and the seller wanted out fast, it could go for a bit less...horse trading I guess. When you get it all setteled out, and can provide a few pictures, I may be interested, thanks...and remember I am going only on your discription, and with respect, I am not sure if you are 100% correct. Can't tell you how many time thing like this turn out very different then the way they started....have a good day

02-12-2004, 08:29 PM	#9
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Keep us all informed. You might be able to sell it here to a member without the problems of expenses and time incurred by selling it someplace else. I may be interested myself. Big Norm

02-13-2004, 01:18 AM	#10
G.W. Gill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 369 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mr. Coffee, If this pistol has been in your family for a long time I would advise you to reconsider the sale. There could be a feeling of emotional emptiness that will awaken sooner or even years from now. I speak from experience. My Great Grandfathers broken gold watch in trade for that ellusive ... The deal was good. The money also was great. But it was not a good investement. Please reconsider. Don't consider it as a loss not to sell. Think of it as preserving family heritige. You CAN'T retrieve that. I emphasize YOU CAN'T RETRIEVE HERITERAGE.

02-13-2004, 01:23 AM	#11
Adam User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Greeneville TN, USA Posts: 78 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I agree, if it has been in your family that long, you will miss it. I too have sold things that had no "meaning" , only to later feel as if I had somehow betrayed myself or my family members.

02-13-2004, 01:29 AM	#12
G.W. Gill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 369 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Adam for the concurring opinion. Maybe Mr. Coffee would share some pictures and a story of his family treasure with us.