Portugese lanyard ?

guw3ch · 08-20-2011, 12:01 PM

Hello,

I have had this lanyard for over 30 years but I don't know for sure if it is from a luger . I have read on this forum lanyards weren't used with lugers. Appreciate any info.

Guenter

Edward Tinker · 08-20-2011, 02:13 PM

Looks like a luger lanyard to me

Vlim · 08-21-2011, 05:42 AM

There is actually some documentation that proves that lanyards were available in the German army, but they were only used where needed, so they were not standard issue. Since these are rather fragile pieces of kit, and since they could be used for a multitude of purposes, including use as sewing machine drive belts, their survival rate is limited at best.

Lanyards like yours most likely came from Portugal when they cleaned out their arsenals in the 1970s and 1980s. A nice example is shown in a 1977 article in 'Guns & Ammo', they also showed up in German magazine articles and Frankonia advertisements, being offered for sale along with other Portuguese equipment.

I purchased a similar lanyard together with a Portuguese holster and cleaning rod in Germany last year.

So I am pretty sure that most of the luger lanyards on today's market actually are Portuguese, but as Jerry rightfully stated in another thread, no conclusive archival evidence is available at the moment, other than the sources mentioned here.

A.Mifsin · 08-21-2011, 06:15 AM

Vlim, when you say Portuguese Lanyard, those it mean manufactured by the Portuguese, Or manufactured in Germany for the Portuguese?
Alf.

pors12 · 08-21-2011, 06:25 AM

Hi,

I think this lanyard was made by the portugese for
the "943" luger.

regards

Otto

Vlim · 08-21-2011, 06:52 AM

Both could be true, I have seen no evidence that points towards one or the other. You do see period repairs on both holsters and lanyards, however.

A.Mifsin · 08-21-2011, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pors12

Hi,

I think this lanyard was made by the portugese for
the "943" luger.

regards

Otto

Waht is "943 " Luger?
Alf

pors12 · 08-21-2011, 12:30 PM

Hello,

The "943" luger are called the portugese luger which
where deliverd by the TR in the end of 1942.
This are about 5000 byf 42 lugers suffix m.

These lugers where used until the 1970´s from
the portuguese army.

regards

Otto

guw3ch · 08-21-2011, 01:31 PM

Thank you very much for the great feedback

Guenter

lugerholsterrepair · 08-21-2011, 02:44 PM

I think this lanyard was made by the portugese for
the "943" luger.

regards

Otto

What makes you think this?

pors12 · 08-22-2011, 12:48 AM

Frankonia sold them in germany as a set incl. Holster,P08,2nd Mag,key ....

Otto

08-20-2011, 12:01 PM	#1
guw3ch User Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 24 Thanks: 14 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Portugese lanyard ? Hello, I have had this lanyard for over 30 years but I don't know for sure if it is from a luger . I have read on this forum lanyards weren't used with lugers. Appreciate any info. Guenter Attached Thumbnails

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	Looks like a luger lanyard to me __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-21-2011, 05:42 AM	#3
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,034 Thanks: 1,020 Thanked 3,882 Times in 1,186 Posts	There is actually some documentation that proves that lanyards were available in the German army, but they were only used where needed, so they were not standard issue. Since these are rather fragile pieces of kit, and since they could be used for a multitude of purposes, including use as sewing machine drive belts, their survival rate is limited at best. Lanyards like yours most likely came from Portugal when they cleaned out their arsenals in the 1970s and 1980s. A nice example is shown in a 1977 article in 'Guns & Ammo', they also showed up in German magazine articles and Frankonia advertisements, being offered for sale along with other Portuguese equipment. I purchased a similar lanyard together with a Portuguese holster and cleaning rod in Germany last year. So I am pretty sure that most of the luger lanyards on today's market actually are Portuguese, but as Jerry rightfully stated in another thread, no conclusive archival evidence is available at the moment, other than the sources mentioned here. Attached Thumbnails

08-21-2011, 06:15 AM	#4
A.Mifsin User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 570 Thanks: 74 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Vlim, when you say Portuguese Lanyard, those it mean manufactured by the Portuguese, Or manufactured in Germany for the Portuguese? Alf. __________________ I prefer a Luger

08-21-2011, 06:25 AM	#5
pors12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 115 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 21 Posts	Hello Hi, I think this lanyard was made by the portugese for the "943" luger. regards Otto

08-21-2011, 06:52 AM	#6
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,034 Thanks: 1,020 Thanked 3,882 Times in 1,186 Posts	Both could be true, I have seen no evidence that points towards one or the other. You do see period repairs on both holsters and lanyards, however.

08-21-2011, 12:30 PM	#8
pors12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 115 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 21 Posts	Hello, The "943" luger are called the portugese luger which where deliverd by the TR in the end of 1942. This are about 5000 byf 42 lugers suffix m. These lugers where used until the 1970´s from the portuguese army. regards Otto

08-21-2011, 01:31 PM	#9
guw3ch User Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 24 Thanks: 14 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Thank you very much for the great feedback Guenter

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lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,850 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,426 Posts	I think this lanyard was made by the portugese for the "943" luger. regards Otto What makes you think this? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-22-2011, 12:48 AM	#11
pors12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 115 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 21 Posts	Frankonia sold them in germany as a set incl. Holster,P08,2nd Mag,key .... Otto